This is one of the main reasons I don't use Android phones. I can understand OEMs being lazy and not releasing updates for their crappy phones but even Google doesn't support their own branded phones all that long.
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iOS 11 Now Installed on 76% of iOS Devices, While Android 8 is Installed on 4.6% of Android Devices
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Must say I agree on the difference from iOS 10 compared to iOS 11 for iPhone 6. Pretty big difference that feels a bit unwarranted considering what's new in the operating system. But what do I know, maybe there's a good reason? I think iOS 11 on my iPad Air 2 (which has an A8X compared to the A8 in the iPhone 6, but of course also twice the RAM – 2 GB instead of 1 GB) runs iOS 11 pretty well compared to the iPhone 6.
On the iPhone 6 I've turned on ”Reduce Transparency” in Settings > General > Accessibility > Increase Contrast which seems to help a bit.
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checked your battery status? maybe they're throttling your device and u just need a new battery?
macOS High Sierra 41%
macOS Sierra 22.47%
OS X El Capitan 17.22%
OS X Yosemite 11.04%
OS X Mavericks 3.8%
mac OS X Snow Leopard 1.68%
Windows 10 43.95%
Windows 7 41.51%
Windows 8.1 7.99%
Windows XP 3.42%
Windows 8 2.44%
Windows Vista 0.61%
http://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/
To be taken with a grain of salt. I'm not sure how they get their data. But it looks like the normal stats I've seen over the years.
People update less their Macs, but as a developer, targeting 3-4 versions for macOS is generally safe. For Windows, a version is often skipped by enterprises or badly received (Vista / 8) and Microsoft has a hard time to make people update (either from XP or 7). It will probably easier with their new update model with Windows 10.
Bigger number but iOS 11 looks basically the same as 7 and still no background multitasking for all apps, no split screen multitasking for iPhones, can't move icons anywhere on home screen, can't swipe away incoming call, messy notifications, etc. Everything that 2012 Android has had. There's also stability and uptime that's unmatched. Here's over a year uptime on phone used as a media UPnP/file server, home assistant, new email text-to-speech announcement, VOIP phone, etc.
Using both, iOS is more like a limited iPod OS while Android is more of a server grade OS for mobile.
Using both, iOS is more like a limited iPod OS while Android is more of a server grade OS for mobile.
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Most people don’t actually think too much about what version of the OS their phone is on, in my experience. Among coworkers and acquaintances, every Android user I have asked, except one, didn’t know which version of the OS their phone was using. iPhone users faired a little better because Apple actually promotes the OS with the devices, particularly at launch. When asked why they updated the OS, invariably it was to make the upgrade notifications stop, not because they had read up or heard about refinements or new features. They were effectively badgered into updating.
Well Apple is a lot more insistent on upgrading...
I am curious, what device did you have that iOS 9 had stability and speed?
Going from iOS 8 to iOS 9 crippled my iPad Mini 2. Also, iOS 9 seemed pretty buggy on my iPhone 6s Plus.
Going to iOS 10 made the iPad Mini usable, but the battery life really sucks now, and my iPhone 6s Plus ran great with it.
Apple's nagging the user that an iOS update is available is nearly as bad as Microsoft's nagging that Windows 10 was available for people with Windows 8.
My iPad Mini 4 and both iPhone SE's will remain on iOS 10.x for as long as we own them. installing the tvOS beta profile on them prevents the nags, so the situation is tolerable, but the day that workaround no longer works is the day I'll look to replace my iOS devices.
Would iOS update adoption rates be as high if people weren't nagged so excessively?
That is a good point about the length of support.
Part of the length of support is how many devices actually remain in service.
If the average life of a handset is about 2-3 years, you will be hard pressed for any OEM to dedicate any resources beyond 2 years or so.
I have an Essential PH-1 and the monthly updates for this phone have come out even before Google releases for the Pixel phones.
Another reason for the fragmentation is carriers.
While Apple controls iOS and has always made it clear that carriers don't get to touch the OS; Android is different.
Verizon and others touch and approve the OS before it makes it to their phones.
For reliable and more timely updates it's important to buy unbranded/carrier unlocked devices.
If not, you are at the mercy of the carrier OS release cycle. They release slow or not at all.
They want you to buy a new device every year or two.
I wonder what these numbers would look like if Apple let you downgrade to an older iOS.
Apple force me to update my iPhone 5s to IOS 11, which is the main reason I'm selling the phone now. IOS 11 is just fine, but it's slow as molasses on an iPhone 5s. IOS 10 was just swift, clean, & neat. This is an Apple policy that bugs me to no end. It needs to change, this refusing to sign old IOS installs. It's MY ***** phone!
Frankly, except for security updates, I don't see the point of upgrading iOS. I only use a small fraction of the newer features and most of them aren't worth it considering all the bugs. Hopefully they deliver on their promise that iOS 12 will focus on stability and performance.
This. Security updates can be provided on Android without having to update the OS and the last few Android version have been so incremental in terms of features that it's hard to discern any major difference between them.
Android Lollipop and Marshmallow are still great operating systems that the vast majority of Android users just simply don't care about upgrading. It clearly has not hurt Android adoption anyway.
I know Android P is upcoming, but I honestly have little care to upgrade. Android Oreo has been that good on my S9.
The one thing that the percentages don't show is the actual user numbers.
Windows 10 adoption might seem "low" at only 43%. but those 43% I believe are well over 2+ billion users. There are more users on Win10 than on All of MacOS (Actually I believe there are more people technically on XP than all of MacOS)
I think the biggest problem with Android is the part that OEMs filter and decide when or if to release an update. Google can release updates every month and new versions every year and users may be more than willing to upgrade, however OEM block this. In the other hand Apple strongly insists in making you to upgrade and then prevent downgrade.
In one hand you have users that are not given the option to upgrade, and in the other hand users who have no option to not upgrade.
In one hand you have users that are not given the option to upgrade, and in the other hand users who have no option to not upgrade.
Why is this even news. Apple keeps messaging you in IOS to remind you to update. Even though you have no interest in updating, one wrong click and you are done.
I wish IOS had a entry in preferences that let you opt out of getting the reminder messages. I'm still on IOS 10 and I'm never planning on updating although I know I'll eventually screw up and click the wrong button when I get the reminder.
I wish IOS had a entry in preferences that let you opt out of getting the reminder messages. I'm still on IOS 10 and I'm never planning on updating although I know I'll eventually screw up and click the wrong button when I get the reminder
.I would be curious to see the iOS 11 numbers if we could roll back to iOS 10
It's real simple- no carrier involved in iOS updates, or no deal with carriers to hold up updates on factory unlocked phones (Samsung)...
This is why Android sucks for security, but iOS 11 also sucks major balls in other ways. Oh well, at least I can use it without worrying about anything. There are vulnerabilities like anything else, but they get fixed.
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The 11.3 or whatever they just released fixed most of the performance issues for me, mainly by disabling the pointless throttling that I'm sure now was just a scam to make me buy a new phone. No battery issues since. Glitches and bad UI are still there, ofc.
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