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In 2012 Apple introduced iOS 7 with a fresh design with Ive touches after the departure of Forstall. to this date Apple kept the design and changed small elements and of course the wallpapers.
Personally I was let down in the announce of iOS 10 because I thought its time for a fresh look.
Do you think Apple will keep this design for another year or maybe more? (original design lasted from 2007-2012) or they might introduce a new look for their OS? I hope they will.
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iOS 1-3 Same Design
iOS 4-6 Same Design (New dock)
iOS 7-9 Same Design (Complete overhaul)
iOS 10-12 Same Design (New interfaces, see below)

We got our Design change. New lock screen, new Notification Center, new notifications and new control center. iOS 13 will probably bring a 100% overhaul that iOS 7 did. We are in the middle period now.
 
Hmm. Many possibilities.
Johnny hates current design.
Johnny is fired from Apple and a new designer takes over iOS UI design.
Everybody wants a new look of iOS...

But whatever, for me, same as one previous post, utility is over aesthetics. As long as iOS works as usual, I don't mind.
 
I think the design will evolve less in the future because, like any UI, it's maturing. Its paradigm of navigation will stay more or less the same. Same for the aesthetics.

Look at the evolution of macOS and you'll see that UI changes are extremely incremental nowadays.

Not a bad thing in my opinion. Change for the sake of changing is really a bad habit.
 
IF Apple make the move to OLed displays next year then I think we will see them bring in a darker OS as the current one would not be efficient on an oled display, too much white space.

Where is the too much white space? Settings app? What else? This leads to the dark mode argument. What is this 'white space' that people are constantly talking about? Safari has to be white because its web pages, sure messages can have a darker UI. But nothing will change with the home screen or lock screen. There is nothing to darken.
 
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IF Apple make the move to OLed displays next year then I think we will see them bring in a darker OS as the current one would not be efficient on an oled display, too much white space.
Samsung has been making Amoled smartphones for years without a Touchwiz dark theme by default. Actually the official Touchwiz - settings, default app, keyboard - is pretty light with colors.
 
In 2012 Apple introduced iOS 7 with a fresh design with Ive touches after the departure of Forstall. to this date Apple kept the design and changed small elements and of course the wallpapers.
Personally I was let down in the announce of iOS 10 because I thought its time for a fresh look.
Do you think Apple will keep this design for another year or maybe more? (original design lasted from 2007-2012) or they might introduce a new look for their OS? I hope they will.
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All the iOS 7 (and above) apologists who proclaim how it's so much better without skeumorphism fail to realize their beloved new UI has: 1. A handset icon from a landline dating back 100 years that most kids have never used, 2. An envelope dating back even longer which again no kids have ever used, 3. A compass?? Really? To denote navigation, once again using a real world metaphor which most young people don't get. 4. And finally a musical note,dating back to sheet music, how quaint.

But nah, we took out the felt and the shadows so it's not skeumorphic anymore!
 
If we get an iPhone 7S small bump refresh, continuing to use an IPS display. There will be another lazy year for Apple with no major UI changes.

If the rumors are true, and the 7 was really another 6SS small bump, and there is much evidence to support this...
And the 2017 Anniversary iPhone is going to be a major blowout with a new design, feature OLED or microLED display. iOS11 needs a redesign. The current iOS7-10 is not energy efficient on an OLD/microLED display. To have that display technology change, it needs to convert to a mostly black UI like the Apple Watch.
 
If we get an iPhone 7S small bump refresh, continuing to use an IPS display. There will be another lazy year for Apple with no major UI changes.

If the rumors are true, and the 7 was really a 6SS small bump, and there is much evidence to support this. And the 2017 iPhone is going to be a major anniversary blowout with a new design, feature OLED or microLED display. iOS11 needs a redesign. The current iOS7-10 is not energy efficient on an OLD/microLED display. To have that display change, it needs to convert to a mostly black UI like the Apple Watch.

It was a lot more than a small bump, and why talk about rumours now it's out??

Also what proof do you have that ios is not efficient on an oled screen??
 
The current iOS7-10 is not energy efficient on an OLD/microLED display. To have that display technology change, it needs to convert to a mostly black UI like the Apple Watch.

You do realize that Apple has just launched a brand new accessibility webpage touting its products as the most accessible ones. And you expect them to convert to black UI? Does not make any business sense...
 
Where is the too much white space? Settings app? What else? This leads to the dark mode argument. What is this 'white space' that people are constantly talking about? Safari has to be white because its web pages, sure messages can have a darker UI. But nothing will change with the home screen or lock screen. There is nothing to darken.
Mail, Phone/Contacts, Messages, Settings, Health, Notes, Photos, App Store, iTunes Store, Podcasts, Music, etc.
 
Mail, Phone/Contacts, Messages, Settings, Health, Notes, Photos, App Store, iTunes Store, Podcasts, Music, etc.
50% of those apps require white space. You cannot make Notes all dark. You cannot make iTunes/App Store all dark and you cannot make health all dark. It will look horrible.
 
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I'm just waiting for Apple to cave and go back to the old design. I'm locked to the old one and I can't get away from it. If I get away from it, then I hate using iOS. The old design is what made iOS unique and fun for me. Now the current design isn't special and makes the user experience stale after a short period of use. I can't stand this flat design trend that started up. For years I always thought that computers were trying to be more realistic, and Apple had a huge lead if we talk about that, but sadly that was squished when Microsoft invented Metro and Google went to flat design. Then Apple "Think Different" thought the same and went flat.

I start rambling about this and others start chiming in saying, "Well, textures and 3D elements are necessary anymore because everyone knows how to use their iPhone. They don't need optical illusions anymore." That's not the exact point of Skeuomorphic design. The design had a great experience and was very pleasing to the eyes. The design also took awhile to get stale for some people, but for me, I still love it and love the experience that comes with it. Sure it's just a design, but it comes with an experience that really does make a difference and really does impact how the device in your hand feels. I'll give you an example:

Last year while my iPhone 4S was my current iPhone. I was stuck on a botched iOS 7 version with an identity crisis that looked almost identical to iOS 6. It was super broken though, and half the system apps were broken and didn't work. Then In November, I found out about OdysseusOTA having the ability to downgrade iPhone 4S' to iOS 6.1.3. It was only on Mac though, but I luckily found a tutorial for using it on Windows. I didn't hesitate one second to download all the files and perform the downgrade the next day. The tool succeeded and iOS 6 burst to life. I ran though the setup and activated it, then installed some apps. When I did all of this, good grief, it felt like I had just got a brand new phone. It was super fast and the user experience was so great. It really showed how beautiful the iPhone 4S really was, and I wouldn't have minded to use it for another year, if Mom didn't offer to let me pick up an iPhone 6S before Christmas. I wanted to stick with iOS 6, but I didn't want to be stuck on 3G.

If the 2018 iPhone 8 is going to have the iPhone 4's design like it's rumored to have, then Apple really does need to revert back to the old design, because iOS 7+ doesn't look right on the iPhone 4 or 5 really.

It's hard to pass up this design.

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You do realize that Apple has just launched a brand new accessibility webpage touting its products as the most accessible ones. And you expect them to convert to black UI? Does not make any business sense...
Why/how would an option for one compromise the other? Even now they have an invert colors accessibility setting just mostly ends up making a lot of things dark (given that they are normally light).
 
50% of those apps require white space. You cannot make Notes all dark. You cannot make iTunes/App Store all dark and you cannot make health all dark. It will look horrible.
White space is not the same as making an app light/dark. Any app can be made dark if there's a lot of white/light colors, and it can look nice if done correctly. Just because you're used to seeing it the way it is doesn't mean that's better. Besides, I think the argument is for a toggle/scheduled dark mode for darker environments and later hours.
 
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50% of those apps require white space. You cannot make Notes all dark. You cannot make iTunes/App Store all dark and you cannot make health all dark. It will look horrible.
Some people might certainly not prefer or like them and to them it might look horrible, but that's not much different than some people not liking the prevalence of white in all those apps, and seeing that as horrible. It's certainly douable, and what it looks like is really just up to the users who have different views of things.
 
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