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Okay, I’ll explain this again.

Once you press the power button 5 times and activate SOS, you have a few options.

1. Power down your phone (disables Touch ID)
2. Call Emergency Services (when call is finished, Touch ID does not work and passcode is needed to unlock phone)
3. Access Medical ID (when pressing Done, passcode is required to access phone)
4. Press Cancel (brings you to passcode screen requiring passcode to unlock phone)
5. Do nothing and leave your phone on the SOS screen (the phone will remain on that screen until one of the above actions is taken which all require a passcode to access the phone)

Since all of these options result in you needing your passscode to get back into the phone, it’s effectively pressing the power button 5 times that disables Touch ID, not just when you tap Cancel.


i think you are correct on all of these, although I've only done one or 2 of them and usually by playing around and not because of some threat or emergency.

That would mean that the only new part of this feature is the 5 or more time activation of the screen, as all of the other consequences, as you pointed out, are already true.
 
Yes, yes, yes!

It's astounding how amazed I am by a feature as technically simple as this.

This is the EXACT kind of engineering genius that I have always loved Apple for.

Maybe one of the most exciting features in many years, I'm not even kidding. A very well thought through concept, especially with keeping the message the same for time-outs and emergency mode.

It's amazing how some of the best stuff is saved for days, weeks or months after the keynote.

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I don't understand the benefit of changing it from TouchID to PIN when getting mugged. If the robber is there to compel you to use your fingerprint to unlock it then they can just as easily compel you to unlock it with your PIN.

You can keep putting it incorrectly and it will lock temporarily. Or the data may get deleted;)
 
Great for when being pulled over by cops. Just tap it 5 times instead of turning it off and boom they can't get it.

While I'm not the biggest fan of law enforcement, do you really get asked for your phone when getting pulled over in the car? I've never had that happen to me. I suppose if you get arrested, and they take your belongings?
 
Okay, I’ll explain this again.

Once you press the power button 5 times and activate SOS, you have a few options.

1. Power down your phone (disables Touch ID)
2. Call Emergency Services (when call is finished, Touch ID does not work and passcode is needed to unlock phone)
3. Access Medical ID (when pressing Done, passcode is required to access phone)
4. Press Cancel (brings you to passcode screen requiring passcode to unlock phone)
5. Do nothing and leave your phone on the SOS screen (the phone will remain on that screen until one of the above actions is taken which all require a passcode to access the phone)

Since all of these options result in you needing your passscode to get back into the phone, it’s effectively pressing the power button 5 times that disables Touch ID, not just when you tap Cancel.

Ok I don't know what was said before your last post but it wasn't totally clear what happens when you do nothing after pressing the button five times. It was plausible that the screen could go dim after a moment as if nothing had happened, in which case Touch ID could still be active. Didn't know it stays on and forces you to choose. Thanks for the clarification. The article could have explained that more clearly.

That's not the best behavior in my opinion, though. The screen should go dim after a short moment, after which Touch ID is also disabled. Reason being if you aren't able to look at your phone and choose an option before someone confiscates your phone, it would be clear to the offender that you had just intentionally disabled Touch ID, which kind of defeats the purpose of being discreet. It might incite anger or even have subtle legal ramifications.

Also I'm not sure if disabling Touch ID is what we really want. I think it would be much better if it simply turned on the passcode IN ADDITION to Touch ID--requiring the passcode to be entered while simultaneously holding your thumb to the home button. Double protection in case an offender has access to one or the other key but not both.
 
It's already possible to disable Touch ID discreetly. Just tap the home button with the wrong finger a couple of times. After a few attempts, the phone will ask for your passcode saying "Your passcode is required to enable Touch ID"

Only takes a couple seconds to lock it down
 
Okay, I’ll explain this again.

Once you press the power button 5 times and activate SOS, you have a few options.

1. Power down your phone (disables Touch ID)
2. Call Emergency Services (when call is finished, Touch ID does not work and passcode is needed to unlock phone)
3. Access Medical ID (when pressing Done, passcode is required to access phone)
4. Press Cancel (brings you to passcode screen requiring passcode to unlock phone)
5. Do nothing and leave your phone on the SOS screen (the phone will remain on that screen until one of the above actions is taken which all require a passcode to access the phone)

Since all of these options result in you needing your passscode to get back into the phone, it’s effectively pressing the power button 5 times that disables Touch ID, not just when you tap Cancel.

How do you "power down" the phone ? Can you press the button a 6th time or do you have to press something on the screen?
As far as I understand all other options require you to see the screen. My point is that you should not have to see the screen to disable touch id
 
How do you "power down" the phone ? Can you press the button a 6th time or do you have to press something on the screen?
As far as I understand all other options require you to see the screen. My point is that you should not have to see the screen to disable touch id
Good question. You must slide to power down, just like normally. I do see your point, but this feature is not to disable Touch ID. It’s to access emergency features quickly on your phone, disabling Touch ID is just a byproduct.
 
Good question. You must slide to power down, just like normally. I do see your point, but this feature is not to disable Touch ID. It’s to access emergency features quickly on your phone, disabling Touch ID is just a byproduct.

Thanks for the clarification; hopefully it can be improved to go further than emergency services only; maybe 7 or 8 presses disables ID

I can also think of a feature preventing the phone from being turned off (disables ID and requires passcode to turn off) so we can track it with find my iphone and enable safety apps to track and keep us safe if needed.

For me same kind of short sightseeing when having a user password for your mac but you can steal all the data with target mode UNLESS you have set a firmware password which is not enabled by default.

Ideas should be fully thought about.. My 2 cents...
 
While I'm not the biggest fan of law enforcement, do you really get asked for your phone when getting pulled over in the car? I've never had that happen to me. I suppose if you get arrested, and they take your belongings?
I know someone who has, several times. He has been told not to video or otherwise record the conversations on his iPhone as well, although I don't know if he has been asked to unlock the phone. He hasn't mentioned it so I assume not. He is guilty of driving in a nice neighborhood while black.
 
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I know someone who has, several times. He has been told not to video or otherwise record the conversations on his iPhone as well, although I don't know if he has been asked to unlock the phone. He hasn't mentioned it so I assume not. He is guilty of driving in a nice neighborhood while black.
I’ve been pulled over while picking up a friend in a nice neighborhood because they had been having problems with break-ins. And no I didn’t try to record the conversation I had with the officer as he nor I were doing anything wrong.
 
I know someone who has, several times. He has been told not to video or otherwise record the conversations on his iPhone as well, although I don't know if he has been asked to unlock the phone. He hasn't mentioned it so I assume not. He is guilty of driving in a nice neighborhood while black.

Yeah you're not supposed to record someone without their consent, everyone knows that. It's technically illegal (in most states, I believe), and can be intimidating to an officer (although I don't think it should bother them), which is going to make you look suspicious as hell (which is half of a police officers job - yes that's why discrimination sucks). You don't just whip out a phone and start recording them. I agree that they are sort of like a public figure, in which case it may make the circumstances a little different than when just recording an ordinary citizen though.

Back to my point, I was referring to someone confiscating their phone. I haven't heard of a police officer confiscating someone's phone without them being arrested.
 
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Liking the old method of Apple suddenly realizing a passcode still has its "uses" :D and back-peddles..
still a good feature.
 
Yeah you're not supposed to record someone without their consent, everyone knows that. It's technically illegal (in most states, I believe), and can be intimidating to an officer (although I don't think it should bother them), which is going to make you look suspicious as hell (which is half of a police officers job - yes that's why discrimination sucks). You don't just whip out a phone and start recording them. I agree that they are sort of like a public figure, in which case it may make the circumstances a little different than when just recording an ordinary citizen though.

Back to my point, I was referring to someone confiscating their phone. I haven't heard of a police officer confiscating someone's phone without them being arrested.

If you're in public and the person you are recording is in public, then it's completely legal to record without consent. You have no expectation of privacy in a public place.
 
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Great for when being pulled over by cops. Just tap it 5 times instead of turning it off and boom they can't get it.
And tapping it five times is faster than turning it off?
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Liking the old method of Apple suddenly realizing a passcode still has its "uses" :D and back-peddles..
still a good feature.
Yeah, Apple back-pedals from its removal of the ability to use a passcode.
 
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If you ever fidget with your phone while waiting and press the power button on and off, then 5 times is a good idea. At 3 or 4 you remember that the alarm will go off if you keep pressing.

Well, I have no idea why anyone would fidget with the power button of their phone, but as we are all different I accept that some people might do just that.
So what if they bring up a menu by mistake. It is not as if the phone is going to explode or anything... exactly what "alarm" are you referring to?

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Here's to finding flaws no matter what!!
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You are correct. :)

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But Apple really should have kept it at 3, and maybe Ive could have satisfied his sensibilities by keeping it at 4, in fact Apple should have had a world poll on it for the most convenient number of presses people are willing to make to activate a feature so as to have no-one blame them for the count.
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Is this your typical reaction for when you disagree with someone else's opinion?
Your attitude must keep you very busy indeed...
 
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