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All Devices iOS 13.3 ― Bug Fixes, Changes, and Improvements
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dk001
macrumors demi-god
Kind of noticed this on my IPP but wanted to check it a bit more: Losing copied clipboard material.
One of my quick uses for Messages, I will come across something I will copy; a sentence, paragraph, pic or... and will Message it to myself for use on other devices. Sometimes I will email it. Been seeing instances where I will copy, do something (check mail, notifications, or other) and then go to paste the copy into a Message or email. There will be nothing to paste. If I immediately copy then paste, no problem. However a quick stop on something else frequently kills the copy. You can probably tell this is something I use all the time. Now I am seeing issues.
One of my quick uses for Messages, I will come across something I will copy; a sentence, paragraph, pic or... and will Message it to myself for use on other devices. Sometimes I will email it. Been seeing instances where I will copy, do something (check mail, notifications, or other) and then go to paste the copy into a Message or email. There will be nothing to paste. If I immediately copy then paste, no problem. However a quick stop on something else frequently kills the copy. You can probably tell this is something I use all the time. Now I am seeing issues.
Macyourdayy
macrumors 6502
Seriously? Why would you join this train wreck? You don't know what you've got till it's gone. This is the worst iOS since 3.x and I'd stay on 12 if I didn't have an 11.
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This app reloading crap didn't happen with 12.x on my 6s+. 13 has been a dumpster fire from the start and that doesn't seem to change. It makes my 11 pro worse than my 6s+ and frequently wish I hadn't bought it.
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Sometimes? I don't think they understand either. The whole basis for iOS13 (Cupertino, we have a problem) seems random and flawed. We're just hiding out in the Lunar Module hoping that the batteries don't fail.
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After importing photos/videos to Mac via Image Capture and then also deleting from Image Capture., thumbnail still exists, in Camera..
Aside from doing "Erasing all content and settings" there is an easier fix..
Just take another photo, then delete it from the phone.
This may or may no get fixed in the future, since Apple keeps breaking it.
Aside from doing "Erasing all content and settings" there is an easier fix..
Just take another photo, then delete it from the phone.
This may or may no get fixed in the future, since Apple keeps breaking it.
dk001
macrumors demi-god
IPP 11 13.3 PR
Battery: Aside from video draining the battery faster than expected, now Safari seems to be doing the same.
Woke this morning and over breakfast, spent the next 90 minutes reading different articles and documents via Safari. No video. Sites have minimal advertising. Yet my IPP burned through 18% (at 82%) in that 90 minutes. When I do a breakdown in Battery for that time it shows:
Screen On 92 min Screen Off 0 min
Safari 79 min
Gmail 1 min
Messages 1 min
Gboard 57 min background activity
Home and Lockscreen 1 min
Battery: Aside from video draining the battery faster than expected, now Safari seems to be doing the same.
Woke this morning and over breakfast, spent the next 90 minutes reading different articles and documents via Safari. No video. Sites have minimal advertising. Yet my IPP burned through 18% (at 82%) in that 90 minutes. When I do a breakdown in Battery for that time it shows:
Screen On 92 min Screen Off 0 min
Safari 79 min
Gmail 1 min
Messages 1 min
Gboard 57 min background activity
Home and Lockscreen 1 min
spiderman0616
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This might sound crazy, but in the last day and a half or so, I'm suddenly seeing much more normal battery drain on my 11" iPad Pro.
I did a DFU restore to 13.3 on Sunday morning and did NOT restore from a backup afterwards. This didn't seem to fix anything and then over the next day or two it just started creeping back to being just as bad as where it was pre-Sunday. For example, I think it was on Tuesday when my battery dropped 10% in standby over less than 4 hours. That same night, I just used the iPad until it drained completely and shut itself off, and then stuck it on the charger overnight.
Since that charge, things have changed. For example--yesterday after work at 5 pm, the battery was at 89%. It sat on my desk in standby until about 9 pm and was still at 89% when I started using it again. I used it from 9 pm until 12 midnight and the battery was down to 70% when I put it away. After 6 hours of standby this morning it had only drained 3%.
So I figure one of five things is going on now:
1) My new install from the DFU restore is finally just settling in and not chugging through battery anymore.
2) There was a rogue app causing this that was somehow not being reported in the battery use stats, and a recent app update fixed it.
3) Apple fixed something server side with iCloud that didn't require an iOS update. (There have been theories floating around that iCloud sync is the culprit on the battery drain issues some people have been seeing.)
4) I have just been doing a magic combination of things on my iPad over the last couple of days that have not exacerbated the issue, so it's still probably there but not being annoying right now.
or
5) My total battery drain until shutoff the other night actually did something. That's never seemed to make a difference before, but who knows.
I think #1 and 5 are probably the most plausible. 2, 3, and 4 are probably less likely, but plausible.
Reminders and Messages are never synced with all devices. When I’m marking one reminder as done on my iPhone, I always get the same reminder again on my Mac, iPad and Watch. Same with messages. Reading them on my iPhone and getting the messages again on my Watch and Mac as new. (Took a long time to write that with that crappy iOS 13 keyboard again)
dk001
macrumors demi-god
Not only is the spell check changing words, it is now also changing sentence structure 😕
IPP 11 - 13.3 PR
Populus
macrumors 604
I see a lot of people complaining about iOS 13.3 and the battery drain. I am on iOS 13.1.3 and in just 2h and a half my battery percentage has fallen from 99% to 60%. In two and a half hours, I repeat, where I’ve been watching an interview on the YouTube website (Safari app).
It is true that I’ve locked my iPad at 18:00h at 99%, and when I’ve arrived at home at 21:00h it was still at 99%. So no battery drain while locked.
Should I consider this a bad performance of battery life on iOS 13.1.3? Is it still worse on iOS 13.3 or maybe it will behave better?
Thank you.
It is true that I’ve locked my iPad at 18:00h at 99%, and when I’ve arrived at home at 21:00h it was still at 99%. So no battery drain while locked.
Should I consider this a bad performance of battery life on iOS 13.1.3? Is it still worse on iOS 13.3 or maybe it will behave better?
Thank you.
spiderman0616
Suspended
My drain on iPad all happens while locked in standby. It’s only sporadic now though. It was just constantly draining and now it only happens in short spurts.
Populus
macrumors 604
Thanks @spiderman0616, it’s just that a lot of bugs might be fixed on 13.3, and provided that I’m not having great battery life at 13.1.3 (the iPad is one month old, and at first I thought the drain was because of Fortnite app) maybe I’m not losing too much on my attempt to have a more stable and mature operating system.
spiderman0616
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I would say if your battery drain is that bad already, the worst that can happen if you go up to 13.3 is that it stays just as bad. That was my experience at first for sure. I will also say though—the DFU restore to 13.3 that I did 6 days ago (WITHOUT then restoring from a backup) really seems to have been the right move to fix the battery problems. I’m not getting the severe drain overnight anymore. For the last three nights in a row it’s only drained 2-3% in standby, which is pretty normal behavior for all the iPad Pros I’ve owned. Still not like the old days where the iPad battery didn’t seem to drain at all unless you were actually using it, but that hasn’t been the case in several years—it’s not specific to iOS 13.
It sucks that this is what I had to do to get the drain to stop, but on the other hand, the alternatives were to either drive all the way over to the Apple store and have them try the same thing, or have them incorrectly determine that this is a hardware issue and swap it out. I’m glad that they’re there to do these things for me when needed, but I’d rather just save the trip and do the software troubleshooting at home.
The worst for me on my iPad 2017 are the constant app reloads, the permanent reloads of safari webpages (even when there is just one tab, it often reloads just because Safari was in background for a few minutes), the constant reload of the photos app and the overall experience. And the keyboard became so unresponsive, never had this many typos ever before.
The ipad just feels cheap and badly designed. There is literally nothing left from that former iOS feeling i had when using iPad and iPhone. And you can’t blame the Hardware or the Ram. It all worked pretty in Safari on 12, the webpages i use didn’t change. Also the keyboard is crap systemwide, it wasn’t on 12.
I don’t know what’s wrong with Apple, but they don’t seem to be able to fix the whole mess. I guess sometimes success kills companies. Like Nokia, who simply lost touch with their core business. So does Apple, you don’t need Apple products without the iOS experience. Android is different, yes, but at the moment it appears much more stable on similar or lower hardware.
The ipad just feels cheap and badly designed. There is literally nothing left from that former iOS feeling i had when using iPad and iPhone. And you can’t blame the Hardware or the Ram. It all worked pretty in Safari on 12, the webpages i use didn’t change. Also the keyboard is crap systemwide, it wasn’t on 12.
I don’t know what’s wrong with Apple, but they don’t seem to be able to fix the whole mess. I guess sometimes success kills companies. Like Nokia, who simply lost touch with their core business. So does Apple, you don’t need Apple products without the iOS experience. Android is different, yes, but at the moment it appears much more stable on similar or lower hardware.
Morac
macrumors 68030
I set up a new iPad Pro 11 under iOS 13.3 with a backup on an iPad Air 2. Everything is working, but I’ve noticed many notifications are disappearing. They will come in (usually), but when I check later they are gone. These are mostly things like News apps. Speaking of which the News app isn’t sending notifications at all.
Just FYI on the battery drain issue, and this really bugs me:
pretty much every ios update on my iphone, Apple turns "on" bluetooth. I never use bluetooth, frankly it's never worked for me.
That said, it's a huge battery drain. And this horrible 13.3 update is no different: sure enough bluetooth was set to "on" despite my setting it to "off".
pretty much every ios update on my iphone, Apple turns "on" bluetooth. I never use bluetooth, frankly it's never worked for me.
That said, it's a huge battery drain. And this horrible 13.3 update is no different: sure enough bluetooth was set to "on" despite my setting it to "off".
ram130
macrumors 6502a
Bluetooth is not a huge battery drain. What do you mean that it doesn't work for you?
I would suspect that if Bluetooth is a big battery drain for you then you have an App that is trying to connect to something continually and can't so keeps trying. I use bluetooth all the time and it causes me no problems. I'd check to see under settings bluetooth to see what is connected or trying and make sure nothing seems strange and delete all if you really don't use it.
My first time ever, my iPad Pro got stuck in a bootloop during an update. It required DFU mode and two hours of my time.
The UI seems a bit less intuitive to me but it is what it is.
The UI seems a bit less intuitive to me but it is what it is.
Morac
macrumors 68030
Did an iTunes restore of iOS 13.3 to my iPad Pro 11 and restored a backup. Seemed to be working except that Photos stopped indexing. I restarted my iPad which fixed that, but then push notifications, which had been working prior to the restart, stopped working for all apps until I opened them after the restart. Also SMS forwarding stopped working until I toggled iMessage off and on on my iPhone.
Having to reopen all apps after every restart is a major pain.
Edit: I restarted again because settings was hanging trying to go to the Game Center settings (fixed that) and notifications appear to be still working so I have no idea why they stopped the first restart after a restore.
Having to reopen all apps after every restart is a major pain.
Edit: I restarted again because settings was hanging trying to go to the Game Center settings (fixed that) and notifications appear to be still working so I have no idea why they stopped the first restart after a restore.
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Populus
macrumors 604
What is exactly iOS Photos indexing? Something related to Spotlight, just like on macOS?
Also you already had notifications issues previously, right? I’ve read you complaining about that, but I don’t remember if you were on the same device and the same version.
Morac
macrumors 68030
The Photos app was stuck at 0% analyzing photos for 24 hours. After restarting, it quickly progressed to 100%. Messages also finished indexing shortly after. Apparently both got stuck.
Yes I was having issues with notifications on this device, specifically with them disappearing from the Notification Center. I did an iTunes restore at the behest of Apple support who refused to do anything to help me until I did that.
After doing a restore, you need to open all apps to reset them and get push notifications working. I did that and they worked for a good 24 hours until I restarted the iPad after which none worked.
It seemed like restarting the iPad broke a few things: SMS forwarding, push notifications never showing up at all (not receiving them) and Game Center settings. I fixed SMS forwarding by toggling iMessage off and on on my iPhone and fixed push notifications by opening all my apps (always fun). The Game Center thing got fixed by another restart.
The good news is after the second restart, I’m still getting push notifications so I don’t need to open all the apps again. Whether the whole thing actually fixes the disappearing push notifications or not remains to be seen.
I swear iOS 13.3 is more buggy than earlier versions. It basically killed performance on my iPad Air 2, hence the new iPad Pro (the $200 off helped that decision).
Populus
macrumors 604
Yeah, I wish iOS 13 / Catalina should’ve had a longer beta test period, because it seems a big part of both operating systems have been rewritten from scratch. Otherwise I can’t understand this level of bugs. Yeah, I’m experiencing bugs everywhere as well, both on iOS 13 and Catalina. Most of them are minor, but some of them are troublesome.