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I feel like this is a legitimate situation where Apple should allow customers the option to check a box accepting security risks and then let the customer downgrade to the previous version of iOS. Has this ever been explored in a class action lawsuit? I really, really don’t want to sound like the typical litigious type, but again I feel that this is the only way to get Apple to move on some things, as has happened a few times in the past.
I stopped at 13.4.1, and and very proud of myself.

I wish I had stopped at 12.

Apple is doing this on purpose, and settled all the lawsuits against them for doing this for a few hundred mil, so they can continue raking in the billions.

I'm off the update train permanently.

This fool is tired of being parted from money.
 
Apple is doing this on purpose, and settled all the lawsuits against them for doing this for a few hundred mil, so they can continue raking in the billions.
Don't think there were lawsuits that were settled in relation to something like this. There were some in relation to battery performance management, but that's something different.
 
I'm off the update train permanently.
I too was intent on staying with iOS 13, even though it was a very buggy experience for me from the start. When I played around with iOS 14 on a 7+, I was impressed. This time last year I was wishing I could downgrade to iOS 12. 14 is immensely better than 13. I count myself fortunate not to be affected by this issue, but 13 wasn’t a smooth rollout either.
 
A friend of me bought a new iphone 7 in october, he used it a week with ios 14.1 no 'problems', then he did the upgrade to ios 14.2 and his battery drained real fast. he send it back for 'repair', it came back 'repaired' and all they did was downgrading to ios 14.1
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if that is real so then they must acknowledge the 14.2 is the issue lol
 
I did an experiment to test my 12 mini on standby.
- Conditions: dark screen, brightness 25-30%, no vibration, siri off, wifi on, localization at minimum, phone used for a few tens of minutes overall (only to check battery and notifications). Only one day I spent it out without wifi for about 8 hours.

The battery is currently at 29% after approximately 83 hours.
- Night consumption about 5% in 7 hours.
- Average consumption in stand by 0.8-1% per hour.
- Disturbing consumption during very light use (no heavy apps, only settings and whatsapp): about 3% in 6 minutes.
How do you think about?
thats probably not a bug lol..... try 4%/h on Standby loll.... you need to optimize your settings.... check your battery usage for some nasty app eatin up your battery

Only my iphone 7 plus is affected..... my OG iphone SE is fine
 
I stopped at 13.4.1, and and very proud of myself.

I wish I had stopped at 12.

Apple is doing this on purpose, and settled all the lawsuits against them for doing this for a few hundred mil, so they can continue raking in the billions.

I'm off the update train permanently.

This fool is tired of being parted from money.
You and me both.

I'm so sick of Apple's heavy handedness and preventing people from downgrading to older versions of iOS in the name of security. I'll gladly click another pointless "I Agree" button and accept the security flaws of downgrading. My perfectly working iPhone 7 with a new battery has become useless since iOS 14.

Want to make a 5 minute phone call? That'll be 8% battery please.

Want to open a couple of websites with no JavaScript enabled? That'll be 6% battery please.

Want to do nothing with your iPhone all night? That'll still be a 2% drain per hour please.
 
I have an iPhone 7 Plus 128gb. Since moving to 14.2 my apps lock up intermittently. I’ll be scrolling which will pause and then 30 seconds later the app will come back to life. My phone is also getting really hot when this happens. I’ve had lots of apps crashing the last week or so and I’ve had total freezes where I’ve had to hard reset the phone. I find this most recent version of iOS full of bloat ware such as the App Library you can’t disable. I’m not keen to upgrade while the iPhone is still made in China. This has been my best phone ever however many issues now with 14.2. I might buy a Taiwanese or Korean made phone next.
 
This battery drain issue have happened many times over the years, it could easily be avoided if Apple didn't release major software versions so often. If someone from Apple management is reading this: Please return to just macOS and iOS (make Apple Watch and Apple TV able to run iOS), so you only have to maintain two operating systems, and only release major versions every 2 years instead of annually, so beta testing of all new software versions will happen for at least 2 years for each device. Not a single serious customer will mind that. People don't want to deal with all these bugfests every year, we want to use our devices, not replace them annually. People want to use quality hardware with quality software. Also please start to consider supporting all devices with software updates for minimum 10 years or even 20+ years. Your hardware is more than capable, if you re-hire Steve Wozniak, you will see what I mean. I'm serious. That will change the tech industry, and it's a good way to show your environmental friendliness. For example, there is no reason an iPhone 6s won't be able to run iOS 24 or later, if you just remove all the bloatware and useless features from your code.
Renaming iOS on Apple TV to tvOS has nothing to do with maintaining an extra OS? Same with iPadOS. They have been separate os’es as far as menus, features and what products they run on for ages. Wozniak is not a youthful competent engineer any longer. I disagree with the points you make to support your argument but I don’t disagree with your argument. I’d like Tim Apple from marketing gone and bring some more technical engineering into the company leadership. I would like to see less focus on toys and more focus on tools to make great things - software, video, games, music, writing, publishing, animation, science and research etc. Tim Apple is interested in making consumption products whereas under Steve Jobs Apple was more about creating tools for people to create things! It’s time to think different Apple. Now Apple just wants sell tv shows, B-grade movies, fitness sessions, Pop music, watches and touch screens. How about making tools for people to use to push humanity forward? There is nothing pro about an iPad. Nor some new emojis, photo filters or whatever gets updated in iOS these days.
 
Battery seems much better when I turn off LTE/5G and just stay on wifi...if anyone wants to test it, give it a try.
 
I have an iPhone 7 Plus 128gb. Since moving to 14.2 my apps lock up intermittently. I’ll be scrolling which will pause and then 30 seconds later the app will come back to life. My phone is also getting really hot when this happens. I’ve had lots of apps crashing the last week or so and I’ve had total freezes where I’ve had to hard reset the phone. I find this most recent version of iOS full of bloat ware such as the App Library you can’t disable. I’m not keen to upgrade while the iPhone is still made in China. This has been my best phone ever however many issues now with 14.2. I might buy a Taiwanese or Korean made phone next.
yup , i'm thinking same thing now.Phone freakin hot
 
Hey again,
I mentioned getting a new phone earlier in this thread, and that I would report back after spending some time with it, or if I found anything. So far no problems. New phone is the 12 Pro Max, previous phone was 7 Plus. Because I did a trade in, I no longer have the 7 plus to compare to the 12 to see if there are any big battery differences. With the exception of the iPhone 7 Plus being owned and used for 3 years, and the 12 being brand new, of course the age of the battery, and probably the size as well taken into account, after removing the app mentioned causing problems, I would have been curious to see how big a difference on battery drain there would have been. Also the 12 pro max is running 14.2.1 where as the other would have been on 14.2.

I can say, I when doing the upgrade at the store, restored a 2 day old iCloud backup to the new phone, so the new phone is running on the 7 Plus config, and no issues.

Was this issue only for older devices ? or were ALL affected ? By the way, this is just a FYI, but switching to Face ID, and losing the home button wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I'm already used to the new design and can use it just about as easily as I did the old.
 
If any Apple engineers are reading this thread, I would suggest looking into increased power draw when multitasking, video in particular. I’ve noticed drastically higher battery drain when playing PiP video lately, on both an iPad Air 2 which I no longer have, and an iPad Pro 1. Both were fresh installs of iOS 14.2 without restoring backups, with minimal changes to the default settings
 
15% left. WiFi/4G 70-30%, location off as I don't need it (but it doesn't affect battery for me, of course, if not using navigation or maps). Still at 100% battery, 11 pro max, 8 months old. Battery was way better on 13.2 I think, and 13.7 and 13.7.1 if i recall were better than ios 14, especially on LTE. Since ios 14 battery life on LTE is worse for me, on WiFi is absolutely great! I am happy with battery life. There are more apps in usage below, but I didnt screenshoot it.
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iPhone 12 mini
From 82% to 76% in 6h in complete stand by on Wi-Fi.

From 76% to 73% in 7-8 min using only WhatsApp...bad very bad.

But i noticed in settings it switched from LTE to 5g auto by itself! :/ (Fortunately i haven’t 5G in my town).

With this kind of drain I could do only 3-3,5 h SoT with a charge...using only WhatsApp!
 
I noticed poor battery life as soon as I updated to iOS14 on my iPhone SE2. I quickly discovered that turning bluetooth off completely fixed the issue. It appears that bluetooth is doing something massively draining in the background even with no connections and Covid settings turned off. Bluetooth uses about 4whr/day on my phone and iPad mini5, both of which have almost perfect battery health.

I've been on the phone with Apple Support many times now and apparently they've escalated my finding to engineering. Hopefully there's a fix soon. Maybe 14.3? Updating right now.
 
iOS 14.3 didn't fix this for me. However, for me at least, I've now narrowed down the battery drain as due specifically to 60fps twitch.tv Safari streams (from some Googling, this appears to have been a common issue recently that was supposedly fixed in the app). I've often had a twitch stream playing in PiP lately and really should've connected the dots sooner. So the solution for me is just to stop watching twitch streams through Safari (or force 30fps, which limits to 480p), and my battery drain has more or less returned to normal.
 
iPhone 6S

14.2 definitely ruined my battery life. I was on iOS 12.1 before I updated. Bluetooth is ALWAYS off via the settings app. Covid exposure is

Overnight: Before, I’d lose maybe 2%. After, maybe 9%

2.5 hours of websurfing used to go from 90% down to 60%. Now, it’s from 90% down to 35%.

Battery Health at 89%
 
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Apparently 14.3 has done nothing to fix battery drain issue. They ignored it. I'm wondering if it's just time to accept this is how it gonna be? The beginning of the decline of the iPhone
 
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Apparently 14.3 has done nothing to fix battery drain issue. They ignored it. I'm wondering if it's just time to accept this is how it gonna be? The beginning of the decline of the iPhone
Hmm 14.3 seems to have really helped my iPhone anyway.
 
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