Is this the big announcement that Apple was supposed to make yesterday...because I can't find it?
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iOS 14.4 Will Introduce Warning on iPhones With Non-Genuine Cameras
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Not according to Apple. They have been "serializing" many components, batteries, displays, now cameras...
I am fine with the secure enclave components like Touch ID or Face ID modules needing to be properly matched to preserve the security of the device, but none of that other stuff should.
Apple is the biggest bullsh*tter when it comes to being environmentally friendly, they are actively working against independent right to repair and so many of their products end up at landfills because they cannot be repaired cheaply if the user chooses to.
Price. Cheap knockoff allows for cheaper repair, and many people will buy on cost alone. At least now they will know if a repair shop say they use real parts but don't.
Exactly, and helps prevent places from making claims that aren't true.
Didn't they start an authorized service program a while back? My guess is most 3rd party repair shops can't afford to maintain stock of genuine items due to the costs and if they do use them the repair costs won't be that much cheaper unless they make very little on each one.
It's a lot like auto repair - you can get a 3rd party to fix it using parts bought from the manufacturer but the repair costs a lot more since they cost more than OEM in general; and the shop may just charge less for labor overall and possibly offer a slight discount on manufacturer sourced parts.
As a consumer, I'd like to know if a non-original part was used. I hesitate to say non-OEM because the parts may come from the OEM just not via Apple.
Considering Apple will take back Apple stuff for recycling there is no reason for it to go into the trash, other than the owner deciding not to bother returning it to Apple.
As someone who buys a lot of used Apple gear, I applaud this step.
As an aside, in Asia it's common for vendors to strip devices for genuine parts and replace them with cheaper parts before sale. It happens to cars too. This isn't aimed at the US that much.
As an aside, in Asia it's common for vendors to strip devices for genuine parts and replace them with cheaper parts before sale. It happens to cars too. This isn't aimed at the US that much.
I'm always supportive of everything Apple can do to protect consumers from bad or illegitimate repairs that may impair their overall user experience.
I am one of few that buy and sell a lot of parts and only deal in OEM. I have been doing it for about 12 years and it doesn't matter if you put an OEM or aftermarket part, it will give the same warning. Batteries and displays already have this feature, but there are devices you can buy from Alibaba that clone the the code from the old broken part and transfer it to the "new" OEM part. Most likely one will come out for the cameras as well.
Apple will say it is to protect the consumer, but it really just forces people to get their parts repaired by Apple at a markup. I wish they would make it easier to be an authorized repairer.
Apple will say it is to protect the consumer, but it really just forces people to get their parts repaired by Apple at a markup. I wish they would make it easier to be an authorized repairer.
What sure what 'non-genuine' Apple was refer. If using pulled parts from another iPhone, that's counting as non genuine? Or they explicitly only accept replacement module issued by Apple?
Would prefer if they just shut the phone off entirely. Those kind of phones are bad for the 2nd hand market.
I had NO idea this was even possible !
If it's just a Warning, NO BIG deal !
It Opens Up the possibility of Third-Party Higher-Performance Cameras in Apple's legacy iPhones !
That's probably why Apple is against it.
They're still convinced they sold us ALL a Managed Device, & that we don't actually own what we paid for !
If it's just a Warning, NO BIG deal !
It Opens Up the possibility of Third-Party Higher-Performance Cameras in Apple's legacy iPhones !
That's probably why Apple is against it.
They're still convinced they sold us ALL a Managed Device, & that we don't actually own what we paid for !
The thing is, using the XR as an example since there are now lots of parts for it, a third party camera is roughly £50GBP whereas it’s £376GBP for Apple to do it with a genuine part and they refuse to sell me the part genuine part individually. No contest.
Of course if it’s a third party repair centre doing it for you and they’re lying about using a genuine part then fair enough.
Of course if it’s a third party repair centre doing it for you and they’re lying about using a genuine part then fair enough.
just let apple repair it. don’t repair it yourself. it’s not that hard.
I like the idea of it warning users as I’ve bought used iPhones before and been curious if something has been replaced before. I know some people are going to up in arms ‘How dare Apple do this!’ but IMO, like Activation Lock, it’s needed to keep people from getting ripped off or taken advantage of.
If it impedes the usage of the phone that’s different. The phone should still be fully and 100% usable but a message when first set up or when you go into Settings should be done to verify all the components are original. I don’t want to purchase a phone with a cheap battery that’s prone to exploding issues. That’s the only repair I will absolutely 100% of the time have done with genuine parts.
If it impedes the usage of the phone that’s different. The phone should still be fully and 100% usable but a message when first set up or when you go into Settings should be done to verify all the components are original. I don’t want to purchase a phone with a cheap battery that’s prone to exploding issues. That’s the only repair I will absolutely 100% of the time have done with genuine parts.
Seems like that was something different:
Apple Launches New Nationwide Racial Equity and Justice Initiative Projects
Apple today announced a set of new projects as part of its $100 million Racial Equity and Justice Initiative (REJI) to help dismantle systemic...
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or at least agree to replace them yourself. I tried twice to replace batteries in my iphone 6s and Apple refused both times even though I was ready to pay.
No, that was an education initiative aimed at black students that amounts to about $2 per black American, over a timeframe that isn’t clear. Every little bit helps I suppose.
If every SP500 company did the same, weighted to market cap, it would be like $25! Problems solved.
Considering how obscenely expensive it is to have Apple repair any aspect of an iPhone, it doesn't surprise me at all.
The way it works now, even if you use a camera from another iPhone it won’t work. I’m guessing this warning will operate the same way. So even if you source the correct part, it still has to be paired to not show the warning.
When you consider the methods and scale available to government actors, then you have to say it’s likely possible. BUT, as with most high end security exploits, you can spend a lot less money and have a far more effective way to obtain information from your target, so not as likely to be put into practice.
Wait, if there are devices you will be able to buy from Alibaba that clones the code, then... this DOESN’T force people to get their parts repaired by Apple, right?
This is the really useful bit (if you’re buying). When I take my phone in for trade in it will now show a replaced battery, screen, camera and headphone jack!