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Yes, it’s never been (mainly) a problem of power, the iPhone could probably too. It’s a problem of concept. A tablet isn’t a computer, besides what Apple may say, so it doesn’t run a desktop OS.

I really loved the concept of docking your phone to enter “desktop” mode. Your smart phone would literally be your only computer (with exceptions, of course).

I know some phones did it already. I think Apple could if they wanted to.

If no MacOS on an iPad, at the very least Apple should give it a “docked” mode when using an external monitor, or something.
 
Time for a dual OS iPad?
iPadOS when used as a tablet.
MacOS when docked.

It is certainly powerful enough to handle it.
YES YES YES - that is the holy grail for me. Tablet when you want it to be with iPadOS, add a keyboard/mouse bootcamp to Big Sur when you need to run desktop apps. That's why I keep praying for 8GB RAM - that is the only missing hardware piece.
 
With all the talk of Thunderbolt i wonder if they have a software surprise in Store too - like complete external Monitor support. They did add the Mouse Support last year at the same time & while introducing new iPads, seemingly out of nowhere
 
While I agree. Keyboard and mouse support exists on iPad. Allow pros to duel boot to develop apps on vacation.

Let iPad be my only daily driver and I will truly be free with my remote job.
It exists, but it’s secondary - the mouse interface is adapted to the touch one, not the other way. The main point of the iPad is that everything CAN (by can, I mean usable) be done with touch, and you cannot say that about a desktop OS. I think the only possibility, although it seems very difficult to achieve, is to have an adaptive interface for both inputs. But dual boot is definitely not going to happen: 1. It has many many technical problems, disk management, shared APIs for different components, updates, boot and specially 2. it doesn’t send a clear message about what’s the product, duplicated features, multiple inputs with multiple interfaces... I’m 99% convinced Apple will never do that.
 
its going to take a whole lot more than better specs to get people to upgrade
We’ve reached the scale with iOS and iPadOS devices where, in any given year, there are millions upon millions of folks potentially looking for something new. The majority of folks using iPads are using ones that are 2-4 or more years old. Their decision to buy isn’t based on “These specs aren’t that much better than last year’s”, it’s “These specs are better than mine”.
 
With all the talk of Thunderbolt i wonder if they have a software surprise in Store too - like complete external Monitor support. They did add the Mouse Support last year at the same time & while introducing new iPads, seemingly out of nowhere
If they are going to add Thunderbolt then better external monitor support would be logical enhancement - especially give the poor support today. Yes, agree that Apple can move quickly and decisvely when they want - mouse support went from crude accessibility setting to finished product quickly and we didn't even have to wait for the new major OS version.
 
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It exists, but it’s secondary - the mouse interface is adapted to the touch one, not the other way. The main point of the iPad is that everything CAN (by can, I mean usable) be done with touch, and you cannot say that about a desktop OS. I think the only possibility, although it seems very difficult to achieve, is to have an adaptive interface for both inputs. But dual boot is definitely not going to happen: 1. It has many many technical problems, disk management, shared APIs for different components, updates, boot and specially 2. it doesn’t send a clear message about what’s the product, duplicated features, multiple inputs with multiple interfaces... I’m 99% convinced Apple will never do that.
1) disable the touch screen in macOS mode, require keyboard and mouse
2) duel boot is already possible. I don’t imagine there is any technical challenge with the kernel etc that isn’t already solved by Apple. Apple builds modern operating systems. They are definitely handling this with their hardware and software.
3) while I agree this could be confusing.. this could be bootcamp 2.0. And just like Rosetta 2.0, bootcamp 2.0 can require users to have some knowledge of computers and checked expectations about quality of the experienc. Apple didn’t flinch adding bootcamp and advertising to its Mac users.
4) there is a huge competitive advantage enabling their iPad tablets to run macOS vs Microsoft surface etc. it’s an alternative to their Mac computers. And it’s almost free for Apple to support and do, one the SoC is capable enoug.

I see Apple doing this
 
I really loved the concept of docking your phone to enter “desktop” mode. Your smart phone would literally be your only computer (with exceptions, of course).

I know some phones did it already. I think Apple could if they wanted to.

If no MacOS on an iPad, at the very least Apple should give it a “docked” mode when using an external monitor, or something.
About improving external monitor support, I agree, it’s frustrating right now, but at the same time I don’t know how it could be done - I fear it could end like iOS apps in macOS, with weird controls and interfaces. About docking phones, I just think it doesn’t have a use case in real life, you always have better and more convenient devices for that purpose.
 
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Time for a dual OS iPad?
iPadOS when used as a tablet.
MacOS when docked.

It is certainly powerful enough to handle it.
Cool idea. With all that power I’d like to see some more desktop features to the OS. And adapted versions of the pro apps would be interesting to see.
 
About docking phones, I just think it doesn’t have a use case in real life, you always have better and more convenient devices for that purpose.
Carrying a fragile computer around is not very convenient. I would love an iPad that did all I need so I can be anywhere and travel efficiently
 
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Time for a dual OS iPad?
iPadOS when used as a tablet.
MacOS when docked.

It is certainly powerful enough to handle it.

I suggested this and told it was stupid...to me seems like the ultimate device....ios/tablet when not attached to keyboard...then quick switches to MACOS when trackpad/mouse and keyboard attached. The hardware is there.
 
this is all nic buy am waiting for the much needed upgraded apple TV with A14 or A12 chip

I have iPhone 12 pro max A14 iPads air 4 A14 MacBook Pro M1 Mac mini M1 the only thing I need now is apple TV with A14 chip then I will have every thing in this house A14 and M1
Yes, the beauty of the 5-nanometers architecture. It’s very advanced.
 
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1) disable the touch screen in macOS mode, require keyboard and mouse
2) duel boot is already possible. I don’t imagine there is any technical challenge with the kernel etc that isn’t already solved by Apple. Apple builds modern operating systems. They are definitely handling this with their hardware and software.
3) while I agree this could be confusing.. this could be bootcamp 2.0. And just like Rosetta 2.0, bootcamp 2.0 can require users to have some knowledge of computers and checked expectations about quality of the experienc. Apple didn’t flinch adding bootcamp and advertising to its Mac users.
4) there is a huge competitive advantage enabling their iPad tablets to run macOS vs Microsoft surface etc. it’s an alternative to their Mac computers. And it’s almost free for Apple to support and do, one the SoC is capable enoug.

I see Apple doing this
I basically think they won’t, but just to specify about the third point... Yes, there’s bootcamp, but that’s something in a desktop OS, with a traditional structure, DMGs, hidden folders (get my point?) and with a target OS that shares the same UI. In this case, we’re talking about a totally different OS, not only from the UI point of view, but also the fundamentals. And about the touchscreen, camera, LiDAR, accelerometer... is Apple going to provide APIs/..Kit for that? Or have fragmentation? You say you see Apple disabling all that... I don’t. But anyway, we’ll see, I may be wrong, I also thought a trackpad would never make it to the iPad (although at a way lower degree than this).
 
Still rocking my IPP 10.5"
More than good enough for the sofa. Not good enough for the desk.
Throw in a landscape friendly front cam for Zoom and I may be in.
 
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Just curious about why some people here dream of using macOS on a 6GB RAM device.
 
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I don’t think they will merge. The vast majority of folks buying computing devices today are buying non-macOS systems, whether it’s iOS/iPadOS, Windows, Chromebooks or “Other”. Of all those groups, the only one that NEEDS to run macOS apps is macOS users. I think it’s far more likely that Apple will make it easier and easier for developers to port to the iPad.

Any “dead” apps may continue to run just fine on the Mac that folks are currently using to run those “dead” apps on. As those apps are not guaranteed to run on a future Mac, it would probably be best to find alternate solutions.
I actually think Apple sees big growth opportunities for the Mac otherwise why go through all that time and investment into making Apple Silicon for Macs
 
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I do wonder if the merging will happen. Part of me thinks it would be awesome, but I'd be curious how they'd manage everything. Like will they create hybrid apps that UI changes, or do I have to download the app twice, or am I just relegated to running iOS apps in macOS.

But I don’t think the two should merge.
In my opinion they should both be there (if so desired by the user) with MacOS appearing only when docked.
As for the apps, it could work the same way as for the Watch.
The watch app is installed automatically when the iOS app is installed.
Likewise, the iPadOS app could be installed automatically when the MacOS app is installed e.g. MS Office, or Photoshop, etc...

For those not interested in MacOS on the iPad, they would still have the option of running iPadOS only.
 
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Surface Pro => hold my beer.
The Surface Pro is a computer with touchscreen and detachable keyboard: computer OS, computer SoC, computer interface, computer IO, computer thickness... yeah, a tablet isn’t a computer, and a computer isn’t a tablet.
 
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The Surface Pro is a computer with touchscreen and detachable keyboard: computer OS, computer SoC, computer interface, computer IO, computer thickness... yeah, a tablet isn’t a computer, and a computer isn’t a tablet.
IPP keyboard... boom iPad is a better compute. Add thunderbolt like rumors say with a dongle ... done deal. Just cause iPad is smaller it’s already faster than the surface tablets
 
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