That’s what I heard and what I would assume. I think the unified memory architecture will be exclusive for M1. It’s too thick and too expensive for iPad.Isn't the M1 SoC based on the A14 SoC, but just with more circuit blocks (e.g. PCIe)?
That’s what I heard and what I would assume. I think the unified memory architecture will be exclusive for M1. It’s too thick and too expensive for iPad.Isn't the M1 SoC based on the A14 SoC, but just with more circuit blocks (e.g. PCIe)?
But, don’t you think it would be far easier to just compile NodeJS or XCode for the iPad? I mean, since they both have Apple Silicon native versions, this would mean the difference between:macOS on iPad is all about running desktop software for pros.. Like XCode to develop apps or NodeJS
All Apple Silicon and recent A-series chips use the unified memory architecture.Maybe with fewer cores and maybe without the unified memory architecture, because it would be too thick and too expensive to package in for the iPad.
I am old enough to remember specialised Word Processors machines. Not good.Exactly, we don’t want jack of all trades, master of none junk.
Specialization is good.
I would agree with this if they didn't go through the trouble of creating Catalyst and encouraging iOS developers to port their apps to macOS. It seems like Apple wants to reinvigorate the Mac.The sales may never go to zero, but it will drop back into the single digit millions going only to folks that need FCP, Logic Pro, and to develop apps.
See, looking through my “end of the Mac” glassesI would agree with this if they didn't go through the trouble of creating Catalyst and encouraging iOS developers to port their apps to macOS. It seems like Apple wants to reinvigorate the Mac.
Problem is the windowing system doesn’t exist on iPad.. developers need thatBut, don’t you think it would be far easier to just compile NodeJS or XCode for the iPad? I mean, since they both have Apple Silicon native versions, this would mean the difference between:
Creating an OS for the iPad that has the resources, libraries, and environment a desktop version of XCode or NodeJS would need just to run the desktop version of XCode, OR
Creating and compiling an optimized, performant XCode/NodeJS specifically designed for the iPad.
The second seems FAR more likely. And, I’ve always said that, if Apple releases an iPad that has external monitor support for an XCode that’s been tuned for that environment, THAT is the day when you can start counting the days for macOS. I mean, the vast majority of Apple developers are developing for Apple Silicon in some shape or form anyway, would there even be a significant downside if it lacked the ability to create Intel executables, for example?
Still, though, creating a windowing system and multitasking for an iPad XCode would be a lot easier than bringing all of macOS to the iPad just for XCode.Problem is the windowing system doesn’t exist on iPad.. developers need that
and true multitasking
Only if the A14x comes with 8Gb RAM...Time for a dual OS iPad?
iPadOS when used as a tablet.
MacOS when docked.
It is certainly powerful enough to handle it.
It’s made great strides and, for me at least, can serve most daily tasks. The files app is still a mess (a dozen taps to get back to the main browser, always opening rather than “quick view” a file) and drag and drop isn’t reliable enough across the system. Apps are getting better every day but there are still some bizarre blind spots limiting things.I think that iPadOS still has some ways to go before it can really make an iPad a "Pro" machine. Sometimes when I try to use my iPad for the work that I do, I find myself reaching for my MacBook Pro instead. A lot of times, I find myself multitasking by using my iPad and my iPhone 12 at the same time when I do use the iPad. This is just my opinion of course, I know the iPad serves a lot of peoples needs, just not all of mine.
When Tim Cook introduced the very first iPad Pro (9.7") in 2015 he said, and I quote: “The iPad Pro is the clearest expression of our vision of the future of personal computing.”See, looking through my “end of the Mac” glasses
How do we keep Mac hardware going as cheaply as possible as it’s declines? Chips from our other platform.
How do we keep Mac software development/support as cheap as possible as it declines? Software from our other platform.
There’s very little that they’re doing that focuses on the Mac as primary. They don’t even advertise the Mac and are selling around 20 million a year, so the low effort approach makes sense to me. In 10 years, that 20 million may still be 5 million, but it’s primarily just replicating the iOS infrastructure/software to a form factor that 5 million still prefer.
I've used MacOS for about 20 years. Pretty sure I know exactly what it does. And I've used iOS for 15 years. Also know exactly what that does.Nope, they absolutely never will, and to even think its possible shows a real lack of understanding of what macOS even is, or does.
No way- the new Arm chip on the iPad Pro can boot macOS... there isn’t any major work for it. The article even suggested the A14X is based on the M1... I don’t see what you think would be hard. Reworking all of those pro apps for iPad would be significantly harderStill, though, creating a windowing system and multitasking for an iPad XCode would be a lot easier than bringing all of macOS to the iPad just for XCode.
A-series do?All Apple Silicon and recent A-series chips use the unified memory architecture.
Most people use both. Just like having an AirPods Max doesn’t replace the need for an AirPods Pro.I think that iPadOS still has some ways to go before it can really make an iPad a "Pro" machine. Sometimes when I try to use my iPad for the work that I do, I find myself reaching for my MacBook Pro instead. A lot of times, I find myself multitasking by using my iPad and my iPhone 12 at the same time when I do use the iPad. This is just my opinion of course, I know the iPad serves a lot of peoples needs, just not all of mine.
Because they’re too lazy to pick up their laptops.Just curious about why some people here dream of using macOS on a 6GB RAM device.
Hey let’s add Linux too 🤔Bootcamp 2.0 with macOS and Windows 10 support on iPad Pro 🙌
It may never be fulfilled for you, and that’s fine. Different systems for different folks. There are likely folks that used an Apple II ‘till the day they died and never understood why folks considered that “Mac toy” a valid option.When Tim Cook introduced the very first iPad Pro (9.7") in 2015 he said, and I quote: “The iPad Pro is the clearest expression of our vision of the future of personal computing.”
I'm still waiting for him to fulfill that promise.
You know, I can see why people would want it. It would give their OS of choice a boost in these days when it’s playing second banana. The rumors are already out, though, that Logic Pro and FCP have been compiled for iPadOS, so that kinda points in the direction that’s of interest to Apple. If a vendor wants their app on the iPad, they’ll have to create an app for it. Technically, Apple has the ability to do whatever they want, this is just one thing I don’t think they want.No way- the new Arm chip on the iPad Pro can boot macOS... there isn’t any major work for it. The article even suggested the A14X is based on the M1... I don’t see what you think would be hard. Reworking all of those pro apps for iPad would be significantly harder
Yes. In fact, one of the biggest differences to the Mac platform caused by the A-series unified memory is the graphics system. iOS devices and iPads have been using unified memory with TBDR graphics for years, it’s only just now coming to the Mac. The physical size of the memory modules isn’t a limiter, they’re quite small.A-series do?