Other iOS 14 More Google Integration

[macher]

Anyone know specifics of the potential leaks of Google services being more integrated with the iPhone in iOS 14?

Love the iPhone but don’t like the Apple ecosystem and don’t use it because I need to be into the Google ecosystem.

Basically I want my iPhone to have the Google integration like Android. I know it can’t be 100% integration but as close as possible.

Thanks!

 

[Mr.Blacky]

What leaks are you talking about?

Edit:
Oh, and why do you need to be in the Google ecosystem?

 

[macher]

What leaks are you talking about?

Google ecosystem being more integrated with the iPhone such as browser and mail.

 

[Aoligei]

What leaks are you talking about?

Edit:
Oh, and why do you need to be in the Google ecosystem?

1. As both iOS and Android users, using Google ecosystem is no brainier. Cross platform computability is the king. Files, passwords, notes etc synced between iOS and Android and Windows.

2. Gmail is most used email in the world.

3. Google storage is little bit cheaper. For free tire, Google offers 15GB instead of 5GB on iCloud. Also, Google offers unlimited photo storage.

4. Google G suite is arguably better than Apple's offering.

 

[macher]

1. As both iOS and Android users, using Google ecosystem is no brainier. Cross platform computability is the king. Files, passwords, notes etc synced between iOS and Android and Windows.

2. Gmail is most used email in the world.

3. Google storage is little bit cheaper. For free tire, Google offers 15GB instead of 5GB on iCloud. Also, Google offers unlimited photo storage.

4. Google G suite is arguably better than Apple's offering.

Thanks for answering.

One thing I would like to add it’s also because I have a Windows PC.

The only Apple ecosystem I use is iMessage.

But I would love better iOS compatibility with Google. For instance since I don’t use Safari when I get an iMessage with a web link it opens up in Safari on the iPhone. Yea I can open it up in Chrome but it’s not a smooth integration.

I would want the web link to open up in Chrome because it would show up in my history on my PC. This is just one example.

Some people suggest I should go with the Pixel since it’s like a Google iPhone per se. But no one can beat Apple’s iPhone / Apple Watch combo.

 

[ericwn]

I don’t think it’s in Apple’s best interest to allow further deep integration with services it doesn’t control. Hence I don’t expect any changes leading to further integrating the stuff of the ad company or anybody else’s system.

 

[C DM]

Google ecosystem being more integrated with the iPhone such as browser and mail.

You would be able to change default apps for something like browser and mail in iOS 14, so there's that.

 

[DieselFiend1989]

I, for one. Would be perfectly happy if Google stayed in its own sandbox and stole its customers data. I have an iPhone because I want fewer problems and fewer security breaches.

 

[macher]

I, for one. Would be perfectly happy if Google stayed in its own sandbox and stole its customers data. I have an iPhone because I want fewer problems and fewer security breaches.

Depends what web browser and email etc you use. I use mostly Google Chrome and Firefox on my PC. I also use Google calendars etc.

Google tracks your history which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. For instance I like how Google suggests different stuff based on my search history much what Amazon does when you browse.

What search engine you use with Safari?

 

[Apple_Robert]

Depends what web browser and email etc you use. I use mostly Google Chrome and Firefox on my PC. I also use Google calendars etc.

The developer will have to revamp the app to allow for their mail or browser app to become the main app in iOS. Google hasn’t done that, yet. It will probably happen at official release or shortly thereafter.

 

[Lyn2012]

More integration with Google means no new phone and no iOS 14 for me.

 

[macher]

More integration with Google means no new phone and no iOS 14 for me.

Why? If you have a Mac or a MacBook you have the choice to be fully integrated into Google.

I work at a university and the departments that have Macs don’t use the Apple ecosystem. And people I know who own Macs and MacBooks for personal use don’t use the Apple ecosystem either.

Why is iOS any different?

 

[macher]

I don’t think it’s in Apple’s best interest to allow further deep integration with services it doesn’t control. Hence I don’t expect any changes leading to further integrating the stuff of the ad company or anybody else’s system.

Almost everyone I know who owns a Mac or Mac Book doesn’t use the Apple ecosystem. They use Firefox or Google Chrome as a web browser and since Gmail is the most used email in the world they mostly use Gmail. Most people I know use Google Docs. In business environments Excel etc.

Why is iOS any different? Why does iOS have to be difficult to make it easier to use other platforms than a desk top like Mac?

I would guess that most people who buy iPhones the average Joe aren’t integrated into the Apple ecosystem. Just ask the average Joe what browser they use on their laptop. I guarantee a vast majority don’t use Safari as an example.

For mobile Chrome has about 65% of market share and Safari has about 26%.

Desktop Chrome has about 65% and Safari has about 8% market share.

Facts are facts.

 

[ericwn]

Almost everyone I know who owns a Mac or Mac Book doesn’t use the Apple ecosystem. They use Firefox or Google Chrome as a web browser and since Gmail is the most used email in the world they mostly use Gmail. Most people I know use Google Docs. In business environments Excel etc.

Why is iOS any different? Why does iOS have to be difficult to make it easier to use other platforms than a desk top like Mac?

I would guess that most people who buy iPhones the average Joe aren’t integrated into the Apple ecosystem. Just ask the average Joe what browser they use on their laptop. I guarantee a vast majority don’t use Safari as an example.

For mobile Chrome has about 65% of market share and Safari has about 26%.

Desktop Chrome has about 65% and Safari has about 8% market share.

Facts are facts.

I am not sure what you are arguing. What changes do you want to see?

I am stating that Apple doesn’t want deeper integration of services it doesn’t control. You seem to want the difference. What exactly do you need on top of what you already have?

I don’t care how many people use free data mining email or other google services. The apps are out there, do it if you want. It doesn’t change the name of the game no matter what you call it.

And businesses built on the back of an ad company are not necessarily striking me as superb ideas but as undertakings of people too greedy to pay for proper tools they need, as in software. Facts are facts.

 

[macher]

I am not sure what you are arguing. What changes do you want to see?

I am stating that Apple doesn’t want deeper integration of services it doesn’t control. You seem to want the difference. What exactly do you need on top of what you already have?

I don’t care how many people use free data mining email or other google services. The apps are out there, do it if you want. It doesn’t change the name of the game no matter what you call it.

And businesses built on the back of an ad company are not necessarily striking me as superb ideas but as undertakings of people too greedy to pay for proper tools they need, as in software. Facts are facts.

Why is iOS any different? Why does Apple want more control on iOS but not on let’s say a MacBook(Mac OS)?

There’s much better integration of the Google ecosystem on a MacBook.

 

[ericwn]

Why is iOS any different? Why does Apple want more control on iOS but not on let’s say a MacBook(Mac OS)?

There’s much better integration of the Google ecosystem on a MacBook.

And what is exactly better there?
macOS is a much older system that has some different approaches and has more capabilities in general. That doesn’t change the fact that Apple wants as much tight control over its products as possible. No other apps stores. No clones. No flash. No licences for other computers. iOS just happened to come later and have its rule book written a few years later.

 

[ian87w]

1. As both iOS and Android users, using Google ecosystem is no brainier. Cross platform computability is the king. Files, passwords, notes etc synced between iOS and Android and Windows.

2. Gmail is most used email in the world.

3. Google storage is little bit cheaper. For free tire, Google offers 15GB instead of 5GB on iCloud. Also, Google offers unlimited photo storage.

4. Google G suite is arguably better than Apple's offering.

1. Agree.
2. For consumers, maybe.
3. The "unlimited" photo storage has a catch. Your photos are resized and recompressed (even if it's 16MP or lower) into inefficient JPEG. Agree on the larger free storage, but Google doesn't have an inexpensive option. The next tier on Google is $1.99 a month for 100GB. At least Apple offers 99c a month for 50GB. I wish Google had a 99c tier.
4. G Suite is an enterprise product. A consumer doesn't have access to G Suite plans. Apple doesn't have such product to begin with.

 

[ian87w]

Anyone know specifics of the potential leaks of Google services being more integrated with the iPhone in iOS 14?

Love the iPhone but don’t like the Apple ecosystem and don’t use it because I need to be into the Google ecosystem.

Basically I want my iPhone to have the Google integration like Android. I know it can’t be 100% integration but as close as possible.

Thanks!

Being an Android user that also have an iPhone, I'm going to share my experience.

- GMail: easily integrated with the default iOS email app. It supports Gmail just fine. Even if you want to use Gmail app, iOS14 will allow you to make it as the default.
- Contacts: iOS supports contact syncing with GMail. Again, no issues. All my contacts are on Google since I'm an Android user, and the iPhone syncs just fine.
- Photos: Simply download Google Photos app. You can even have the app upload your Photos to Google Photos. The only minor issue is you cannot set the Google Photos app as the default gallery app just yet.
- Browser: with iOS14, you can set Chrome as your default browser.
- Google Drive: iOS Files app support integration with Google Drive, so you can access your GDrive directly on the Files app.
- Maps: Alas, there's no way to set Google Maps as the default Maps app just yet. However, many other apps and websites are now smart enough to offer you a choice to open Google Maps when there's a map/location link.
- All other Google services: Google make great iOS apps of their services. Docs, Sheets, even Keep, they are all available on iOS.

In short, actually it's not bad. Google focuses to be a cloud service, so most, if not all, of their products are available on the cloud, and thus integration with iOS is pretty good.

 

[macher]

Being an Android user that also have an iPhone, I'm going to share my experience.

- GMail: easily integrated with the default iOS email app. It supports Gmail just fine. Even if you want to use Gmail app, iOS14 will allow you to make it as the default.
- Contacts: iOS supports contact syncing with GMail. Again, no issues. All my contacts are on Google since I'm an Android user, and the iPhone syncs just fine.
- Photos: Simply download Google Photos app. You can even have the app upload your Photos to Google Photos. The only minor issue is you cannot set the Google Photos app as the default gallery app just yet.
- Browser: with iOS14, you can set Chrome as your default browser.
- Google Drive: iOS Files app support integration with Google Drive, so you can access your GDrive directly on the Files app.
- Maps: Alas, there's no way to set Google Maps as the default Maps app just yet. However, many other apps and websites are now smart enough to offer you a choice to open Google Maps when there's a map/location link.
- All other Google services: Google make great iOS apps of their services. Docs, Sheets, even Keep, they are all available on iOS.

In short, actually it's not bad. Google focuses to be a cloud service, so most, if not all, of their products are available on the cloud, and thus integration with iOS is pretty good.

Thanks so this will apply when iOS 14 is released?

 

[ian87w]

Thanks so this will apply when iOS 14 is released?

iOS14 will allow user to change the default Email and Browser.

iOS 14 and iPadOS 14 will let you set default email and browser apps

iPad owners will soon have some choice for default apps

www.theverge.com

The rest of my points are already valid currently.

 

[macher]

iOS14 will allow user to change the default Email and Browser.

iOS 14 and iPadOS 14 will let you set default email and browser apps

iPad owners will soon have some choice for default apps

www.theverge.com

The rest of my points are already valid currently.

Thanks.

Compared to Android how would you rate Google integration on the iPhone? I’m sure Android is better integration of course but is it significantly better?

 

[ian87w]

Thanks.

Compared to Android how would you rate Google integration on the iPhone? I’m sure Android is better integration of course but is it significantly better?

For me, the big thing is Maps. I use Google Maps all the time, and unfortunately Apple maps just doesn't do well in my country (yet). Thus my Android is still my primary driver. But other than that, I'd say the experience boils down to whether you prefer Android or iOS themselves. Google makes sure their services are cloud focused, thus most of their stuff actually work fine/great on iOS as well.

One thing I didn't mention (because I don't have experience with) is Apple Carplay vs Google Auto. I have no idea how well things are integrated once you are in these modes. Also, I don't use Siri nor Google assistant. Obviously Google Assistant will work better on an Android phone, so that could be part of your consideration.

 

[Mr.Blacky]

I still don't see those rumors/leaks about more Google services being integrated in iOS 14. 🤔

 

[macher]

For me, the big thing is Maps. I use Google Maps all the time, and unfortunately Apple maps just doesn't do well in my country (yet). Thus my Android is still my primary driver. But other than that, I'd say the experience boils down to whether you prefer Android or iOS themselves. Google makes sure their services are cloud focused, thus most of their stuff actually work fine/great on iOS as well.

One thing I didn't mention (because I don't have experience with) is Apple Carplay vs Google Auto. I have no idea how well things are integrated once you are in these modes. Also, I don't use Siri nor Google assistant. Obviously Google Assistant will work better on an Android phone, so that could be part of your consideration.

Yea I prefer Google maps. When I search for something in Chrome iOS browser Google maps opens if I want directions.

Don’t know which country you’re in but here in the USA we mostly use iMessage. I often get links in iMessages and the only way I can open the links in Chrome is if I copy the link and paste it unless I’m doing something wrong.

 

[eyoungren]

Why is iOS any different? Why does Apple want more control on iOS but not on let’s say a MacBook(Mac OS)?

There’s much better integration of the Google ecosystem on a MacBook.

You're missing Apple's trend with MacOS.

The App store…no more downloading apps from a website and installing them via the developer. You download through the app store. Thus, Apple controls access.

SIP (System Integrity Protection). No more altering system files. How long before Apple doesn't let you turn it off anymore?

Disk Utility, no more ability to repair permissions, features taken away at each new release of the OS.

Start paying attention and you're going to realize that Apple is slowly, over time, locking down the Mac. Right now there are ways around things, but for how long?