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Doesn’t matter if that’s what they were “designed” for, they were a fantastic anti theft device as originally designed. Theft is a very real and very serious problem. Use of Airtags as a stalking device is an imaginary non-problem. Until this hyped up paranoia about Airtags, there has been no rash of stalking incidents using the various Bluetooth tracking tags that have been on the market for years without this disabling feature.

This is so stupid that the only rational explanation is that this stalking paranoia is a red herring ginned up by Tile to trick Apple into crippling their own product so the Tile will still be able to find a market for their products.
I'm a bit confused on how AirTags prevents theft. If I was a thief, couldn't I just smash the AirTag and/or hide it somewhere else away from the thing I'm stealing (e.g. a wallet)?
 
Apple seems to be making it as hard as possible on purpose to make AirTags useless for anti-theft purposes. This could have been a groundbreaking product; imagine thieves being afraid to steal anything because it might have an AirTag in it? I would have bought one for my bike and my backpack. But nope, not the case because Apple makes it so trivial to find and disable.

I totally get the anti-stalking angle, but seriously... There's plenty of tracking devices stalkers can buy to track someone that are even better than AirTags.

Apple went the wrong way with AirTags, in my opinion. I suspect they're terrified of lawsuits from stalking victims.
I agreed with everything here except the lawsuits part. They’re actually afraid of the “trial by social media” of people who probably haven’t ever even used their products, but would paint Apple as “pro-stalker” for not making a useless product. Definitely not buying any AirTags after this mess.
 
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There certainly should be a warning that an unkown airtag is following someone and means to allow them to find it but I’m leery of having back door into it that allows permanent disabling of the tracker. Once an airtag is located its battery can easily be removed so a wireless method of permanently disabling these things seems like overkill and has the potential to damage sales as has been stated by others in this thread. I certainly don’t want to invest in a product that someone can render disabled without my consent and I not know about it until I have lost the item it was intended to protect. I think Apple knows this and wouldn’t do remote disabling without failsafes.
 
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Say Im in an Apple store with several hundred of my best friends. Guy next to me decides to scan for AirTags "nearby" and "finds" the AirTag on MY keys in MY pocket. He decides to "disable the device so that it can no longer be used for tracking purposes."
So, dear Apple, now MY AirTag on MY keys is DISABLED.
What are you good for???
Disabling is a physical action that involves opening the battery cover
https://mashable.com/article/how-to-disable-unwanted-airtags-apple
 
Won’t this mean that a robber could use that feature to deactivate a tag in stolen property?
For the fifty billionth time: AirTags are not an anti-theft device, are not designed to be an anti-theft device, and are not marketed as an anti-theft device.

So yes, a robber absolutely can discover and deactivate an AirTag if they steal your property.
 
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For the fifty billionth time: AirTags are not an anti-theft device, are not designed to be an anti-theft device, and are not marketed as an anti-theft device.

So yes, a robber absolutely can discover and deactivate an AirTag if they steal your property.
For the fifty billionth time: "AirTags are not designed to be an anti-theft device" is not an argument. The point is that they *functioned* extremely well as an anti-theft device whether they were "designed" to be used that way or not. And many, many people bought them precisely because they had that functionality. When you've spent money on something for a particular function it can perform (and Apple had to be well aware that many people were using the AirTags in this way), and then months after the purchase the manufacturer cripples that functionality, people are within their rights to be annoyed.
 
i mean i would imagine most people arent thieves and wouldn't intentionally deactivate an airtag they likely know is in the lost item they just found

thieves would just find the airtag and throw it away so is it really much different?
Many people will do this. Just because. Apple needs to fix this dumb feature.
 
Many people will do this. Just because. Apple needs to fix this dumb feature.
Then that's their problem. Not Apple's.

Nothing stopping you from shifting a new car into reverse while doing 80MPH. Good luck getting the manufacturer to care about a warrenty repair if you do.
 
Then that's their problem. Not Apple's.

Nothing stopping you from shifting a new car into reverse while doing 80MPH. Good luck getting the manufacturer to care about a warrenty repair if you do.
Yes but you wouldn’t be doing the shifting. Someone else would. Who gave the other person the way to shift?
 
Yes but you wouldn’t be doing the shifting. Someone else would. Who gave the other person the way to shift?
Again, you're focused on wanting Apple creating a device to help track STOLEN items.

Airtags are not that device, they were not designed to be that device, and won't be that device.
 
Again, you're focused on wanting Apple creating a device to help track STOLEN items.

Airtags are not that device, they were not designed to be that device, and won't be that device.
And that’s fine if that what’s apple wants. But they are leaving a security issue open if some random stranger can find and deactivate your tag.
 
And that’s fine if that what’s apple wants. But they are leaving a security issue open if some random stranger can find and deactivate your tag.
No, they're not. Because as you even just confirmed, these are NOT security devices.

Good grief!

What's to stop a thief from throwing a tag away, or stamping on it, or flushing it down the toilet or any other way of "deactivating" the tag?

There isn't - which is why Apple don't market them as Security devices.
 
I'm a bit confused on how AirTags prevents theft. If I was a thief, couldn't I just smash the AirTag and/or hide it somewhere else away from the thing I'm stealing (e.g. a wallet)?

Or, simply remove the battery and then throw it away!

At the end of the day, an Airtag is an item thats helps you find misplaced items, such as keys etc - its not an anti-theft device and should not be treated as such.
 
It's clear Apple isn't actually concerned with safety. Either that, or their attempt at safety features is comically half-baked. They are essentially training me to ignore "AirTag following you" notifications because my wife has no option to share her AirTag (which lives in the car) with me, nor is "Find My" smart enough to realize that my iPhone's location is already being shared with her, anyway. Left Hand, Right Hand.

Until family sharing of AirTags is available, the "security/privacy" features are going to be pointless for a pretty substantial portion of the iOS userbase.
 
Doesn’t matter if that’s what they were “designed” for, they were a fantastic anti theft device as originally designed. Theft is a very real and very serious problem. Use of Airtags as a stalking device is an imaginary non-problem.
Is it though?



Airtags are a quantum leap for stalkers, because they are tiny, cheap, require no cellular contract, and have a year-long battery life.
 
Is it though?



Airtags are a quantum leap for stalkers, because they are tiny, cheap, require no cellular contract, and have a year-long battery life.
I dunno, because 5 cars were stolen and one case was reported is it really a quantum leap?
 
I dunno, because 5 cars were stolen and one case was reported
And how many go unreported and undiscovered? This is definitely not an "imaginary non-issue" as the previous poster suggested.

is it really a quantum leap?
The Airtags are a quantum leap in terms of their stalking "features". There has never been a tracking device this cheap, small and capable available on the consumer market. Tile was close in theory, but they didn't have the critical mass to make their tags trackable almost everywhere like the Airtags are thanks to the "Find My network".
 
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I have updated to iOS 15.2 and cant see the option "Items That Can Track Me." and "Help Return Lost Items" in the items tab.
 
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