Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a fan of Face ID, and the notch doesn't bother me.I have a theory. Fans of Face ID or also pro-notch, and fans of Touch ID are anti-notch. Am I right?
Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a fan of Face ID, and the notch doesn't bother me.I have a theory. Fans of Face ID or also pro-notch, and fans of Touch ID are anti-notch. Am I right?
That's what I was wondering too. Maybe this is why it took Apple 2 years to make this work - they needed a way to extract extra info from what wasn't covered by the mask. Maybe this is why it is limited to iPhone 12 and newer as well.I’m wondering if this dilutes security by having less info to scan
It only took them 2 years… shame on Apple for taking this long.Just for iPhone 12 or 13. (&pro). Hopefully they will implement it to older iphones
Apple paid 113M for deliberately slowing phones via updates...I agree they are better than the average company when it comes to this. But lets be honest, the iPhone X and up should have no problem processing faceid with a mask. It doesn't take extra processing power to measure FEWER points on your face.I'm so tired of this trope. I believe Apple does a great job keeping older hardware up to snuff. My partner is still happily using her SE 2016, on iOS 15. Though they really fell down on the messaging (in a very consumer-unfriendly way), implementing the performance limitations when the phone sensed battery degradation was a great move to get more life out of older phones.
I agree their post purchase software support is good and one of the best. While using a mask, there are fewer data points for FaceID to measure so it should theoretically be less processor/hardware intensive. That said, I'm not an expert in IT so i could be wrong. I do know Apple has a legal obligation to its shareholders to increase profit and releasing features only for new phones is a good way to get people to upgrade.Okay, if that were true, then why does Apple have by far the best post-purchase software support and upgrades of any major electronics company? They don't really have to support their older devices, but they do.
The feature is likely gated by a hardware limitation, or didn't provide acceptable performance on older devices (which is a perfectly acceptable reason too).
They had good intentions though. Apple figured that rather than having their devices cut out and lose charge rapidly, they throttled the power on tap to try and balance the scale a little.Apple paid 113M for deliberately slowing phones via updates...I agree they are better than the average company when it comes to this. But lets be honest, the iPhone X and up should have no problem processing faceid with a mask. It doesn't take extra processing power to measure FEWER points on your face.
It's really just speculation at this point. For example, the FaceID sensor may still capture the face mask, so more compute power is required to figure out and discount this area of the data, and appropriately verify the remaining facial data that it can gather.I agree they're post purchase software support is good and one of the best. While using a mask, there are fewer data points for FaceID to measure so it should theoretically be less processor/hardware intensive. [...]
And compromise the security / integrity of the device, or have to wait for several seconds while it computes the algorithm... no thanks!Sit back and watch as jailbreak developers release a tweak to enable this function for all FaceID devices, for free.
Of course, everyone is different, have their own opinions, and are fully entitled to voice themIt's funny you could point out things that I would point out, and we would have opposite reactions! Takes all types, right?
I really hope the muscle memory kicks in. I have had my 13 mini for only three weeks or so, so not long. I'm in Minneapolis, but I guess the gloves thing hasn't bothered me. But interesting you find the "manual" feel a downside...I consider it an upside! I feel more in control of the transaction. And I felt that feeling for the button was more natural and intuitive than getting the swipe from the bottom right. But I'll be glad to feel silly about that in a couple of months, if I get used to it!
EDIT: As for Apple Pay, I find reaching for the side button and double-pressing way less friendly than just resting my thumb on the home button. But again, muscle memory. I do have an Apple Watch, so I use that now instead...but I just loved the feel of doing it with Touch ID.
I definitely prefer using FaceID over TouchID, but I'm not remotely fussed about the notch. When I'm using the phone, it just "melts away", I don't give it a second thought at all.I have a theory. Fans of Face ID or also pro-notch, and fans of Touch ID are anti-notch. Am I right?
To be fair I also didn’t realize this isn’t the same “you have to be wearing an Apple Watch” thing that we’ve got working with all FaceID phones. I was thinking it was the same thing but just made Apple Pay works.It’s not been confirmed, but it is speculated that there may have been advancements with the A-Series processors that pose restrictions on iPhone 11 and under with Face ID.
Nah it works for fully accessing the phone - any Face ID prompt now works with a mask on, but you have to get the angle just right. I've found myself having to adjust my mask and move the phone up for it to work.Sounds like it just allows you to authenticate payments rather than fully access the phone.
I'm fine with it and this needed to be available well over a year ago. I'm sure they'll be a toggle to disable it for those that want to.
Updating the muscle memory is a bit easier with one device. I have a company-issued iPhone and a personal iPhone, one with Touch ID, one without. When you have to switch back and forth between models often, it can be surprisingly jarring.It's funny you could point out things that I would point out, and we would have opposite reactions! Takes all types, right?
I really hope the muscle memory kicks in. I have had my 13 mini for only three weeks or so, so not long.
Nah it works for fully accessing the phone - any Face ID prompt now works with a mask on, but you have to get the angle just right. I've found myself having to adjust my mask and move the phone up for it
Yes, it’s all around the eyes. Different masks don’t matter, even pulling up your shirt over your nose works. It will only authenticate if it can see your eyes through the glasses but will also accommodate some steaming on the glasses. I can confirm this with actual experience today..
The page for enabling it says it uses features around your eyes to verify it's you. Since it required a re-scan of my face before I could enable it, I wonder if that means they're training it to look more specifically for features near eyes.
PATHETIC UPDATE.... JUST KEEPS CONFIRMING THOSE EVER SO TENDER FOLKS THAT LIVE IN FEAR
Apple yesterday released the first developers beta of iOS 15.4 with several notable new features. Perhaps the biggest is the ability to use Face ID to unlock your iPhone while wearing a mask, without requiring an Apple Watch to do so. In another noteworthy addition, you can now also authenticate Apple Pay transactions while wearing a mask for the first time.
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With the release of iOS 14.5 and watchOS 7.4 last year, Apple added the ability for users wearing a mask to unlock their iPhone when wearing an Apple Watch, eliminating the need to enter a passcode instead. However, while "Unlock with Apple Watch" allows users to unlock their device while wearing a mask, other features that rely on Face ID, such as Apple Pay and in-app authentication, do not work.
That will change when iOS 15.4 is released to the public, after which users will also be able to make Apple Pay purchases and use Face ID within apps when wearing a face covering. That said, Apple is warning that using Face ID with a mask is less secure, and the biometric authentication system remains "most accurate" when used with full-face recognition.
To enable Face ID while wearing a mask, an iPhone "can recognize the unique features around the eye area to authenticate," according to Apple. The feature in the first beta is limited only to the iPhone 12 and later, meaning users of older iPhone models will miss out. Alongside Face ID with a mask, Apple has also added the ability to configure Face ID while wearing glasses.
iOS and iPadOS 15.4 are likely to be released to the public later this Spring and include new emojis, an Apple Card widget, Universal Control, and more. Check out everything new in the first beta with our roundup.
Article Link: iOS 15.4 Will Let You Pay With Apple Pay Using Face ID While Wearing a Mask
Sounds like it just allows you to authenticate payments rather than fully access the phone.
I'm fine with it and this needed to be available well over a year ago. I'm sure they'll be a toggle to disable it for those that want to.