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I have watched countless videos and documentaries about 6/4. It is absolutely necessary squash this movement.

Human liberty means nothing if you have no wealth. Talking to an person living absolute poverty, if you cannot survive, human rights, freedom and liberty means nothing. Try to live in Syria for a week and see if you can come to same conclusion.
I agree with censorship to combat the US and UK PsyOPs, but this also has long-term repercussions. Most of the human knowledge (that matters) is written in English and by shutting out the entire West, the Chinese will be disconnected and less self-aware. That's dangerous. Of course, the elites in the Chinese society can and always will have access to the world via VPNs, maybe that's enough. It's not possible to get a VPN in China unless you have connections or affiliations, so you basically need to live abroad to know about this (just travel is insufficient b/c you just wouldn't know enough by osmosis), have VPN installed before you go to China, or you have to work for those big companies and reach senior-level positions. They no longer provide VPNs for entry-level employees after the 2017 regulatory change.

They are throwing the baby out with bath water.
 
Sooo….how long until a National Security Letter winds up at the third party company and the NSA gets its hands in the process.

That’s for anyone thinking the US isn’t just as authoritarian in tracking citizens. At least the Chinese people understand what their government is doing. The US is every bit a surveillance state as China, just laundered through various mechanisms and companies.

I do like every time Apple throws them a curveball though.

Side note: A millennial living in China has a far greater likelihood of being able to afford their own house than in the US…but “freedom” or whatever that means to you folks 🤷‍♂️
Hopefully, by using end-to-end encryption and other technical methods, they can defeat the National Security Letters. Just give them random bits.

I hope they will encrypt the metadata too.
 
Hopefully, by using end-to-end encryption and other technical methods, they can defeat the National Security Letters. Just give them random bits.

I hope they will encrypt the metadata too.
Personally, I think the encryption standards themselves are compromised, but this isn’t the time or the place to rehash the NSA’s long history of undermining security from the inside.
 
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Y’all have slavery. Literal slavery. I’m sure you are enjoying your social credit score with comments like these though. It must be so great living in a place where praising a government who enslaves its religious minorities makes your life better.

Yeah, talk that to aboriginal people in North America. Talk to Canadian Residential school survivor, you guys aren’t living in a fantasy island.
 
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I can't believe the article doesn't just say "VPN." It's a VPN, right?

Their statement is that it isn't a VPN because the part that would be a VPN, also has a VPN. That second hop is what differentiates it and allows them to hide all the source data.
 
Sooo….how long until a National Security Letter winds up at the third party company and the NSA gets its hands in the process.

That’s for anyone thinking the US isn’t just as authoritarian in tracking citizens. At least the Chinese people understand what their government is doing. The US is every bit a surveillance state as China, just laundered through various mechanisms and companies.

I do like every time Apple throws them a curveball though.

Side note: A millennial living in China has a far greater likelihood of being able to afford their own house than in the US…but “freedom” or whatever that means to you folks 🤷‍♂️
People have their heads stuck in the sand regarding political censorship in the West. Most westerners seem to be OK with it, as the censorship hammer drops most harshly on prominent members of a relatively small, undesirable political class. But US tech monopolies are absolutely in bed with a major US political party to quell dissent, suppress speech, push legislation, and tilt elections.

If you wrong these people, you can be mass banned from dozens of platforms overnight, fired from your job, have your bank accounts seized, added to no-fly lists, and barred entry to other western nations... all without breaking a single law. It's insidious and getting worse. They pulled this stunt on the leader of the opposition party - a brazen move straight out of a banana republic.
 
Personally, I think the encryption standards themselves are compromised, but this isn’t the time or the place to rehash the NSA’s long history of undermining security from the inside.
No, unless you choose to use weak encryptions. Engineers can prove it by math.
 
I already use a VPN, therefore I'm not going to take much advantage of this feature, but I surely seeing like apple pursuing this direction
 
Canada is not the USA. You just made up a load of nonsense. We also almost never kick out migrants who overstay their work visas. Funny, I wonder how many people are trying to rush across the border to China to get a better life? I wonder how well non citizens get to live there unless they come with lots of money to spend….

Only one of us is ignoring our countries faults and it’s not me. You wanna admit the CCP is a racist regime who (still today) enslaves people simply for believing in god?

China has large black population in Guangzhou from Africa... Just saying.
 
Cool, I can say something on a forum. I guess that means the scales if injustice here are level now. Makes me feel so much better about cruelty built into the operating of my country now both domestic and abroad. I guess we really are superior. Guess I should do my part to continue the process towards war with China that’s clearly being conditioned into the American mind. As if such a thing is merely a force of nature that every American suddenly knows the same stories of how evil China is that it becomes the focal point on even a Mac website discussing apple’s new VPN-like service…
You can say it anywhere you want. That’s the entire point. You recognize the failure of our country and are free to speak about them and fight against them. We have entire movements dedicated to correcting the wrongs in our justice system. In China they just lock everyone up if they try to challenge the CCP.
 
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Anyone think there’s going to be some sort of pseudo-antitrust angled attack against Apple doing this? They’re pissing off entire swaths of the parasitic underbelly of Silicon Valley.
 
Anyone think there’s going to be some sort of pseudo-antitrust angled attack against Apple doing this? They’re pissing off entire swaths of the parasitic underbelly of Silicon Valley.

Probably, but it’s going to be hard to garner any sympathy when their complaint essentially amounts to Apple preventing them from vacuuming as much data as they would like.
 
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Probably, but it’s going to be hard to garner any sympathy when their complaint essentially amounts to Apple preventing them from vacuuming as much data as they would like.
That’s my thought, but given the corporate makeup of our court system, it’s kind of a jump ball on what the outcome will be. The current Epic trial is looking like there’s going to be some outcomes that have nothing to do with the actual law, just which Silicon Valley coalition is going to win 🤷‍♂️
 
That’s my thought, but given the corporate makeup of our court system, it’s kind of a jump ball on what the outcome will be. The current Epic trial is looking like there’s going to be some outcomes that have nothing to do with the actual law, just which Silicon Valley coalition is going to win 🤷‍♂️

In that note, what do you think about right to repair laws? Are these attempt to bring right to repair legislation will fail?
 
In that note, what do you think about right to repair laws? Are these attempt to bring right to repair legislation will fail?
Oh they’ll fail, but not because they’re wrong. I absolutely believe in the right to repair, up to a point.
 
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