should've kept the old thing running until you have a replacement. one of the worst example of corporate take-over. I cannot imagine that music app for classic music is that hard.
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iOS 16.3 Code Reveals Apple Continues to Work on Classical Music App
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I don't know a single person that listens to k-pop, but that doesn't mean people don't listen to it.
It is hard to listen to K-pop, they are all just a copy of previous boy bands and girl bands
Classical has a huge metadata problem, because it wasn't considered when the first MP3 apps ossified on the standard track/artist/album pattern, and everybody came up with their own hacks and workarounds. Apple is trying to undo about twenty years of classical metadata damage.
I don't really care if it's a tab in the same app or a whole 'nother app. What's very very clear is that their current app fails the classical audience completely.
I can.
I was in high school during the days of "Saturday Night Fever," crap disco music of the most idiotic inanity was incessantly pouring from every speaker everywhere, thump thump thump thump stayin' alive stayin' alive, three years running of every musician trying to sound like the BeeGees, and I finally hit my limit, and dialed my receiver to the other end of the dial.
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Yep. The app's the easy part. The hard part is not feeding it twenty years' worth of dog droppings for metadata.
But didn’t they buy a company that had already done that? This seems a bit like Dark Sky all over again. They bought something that was already working, shut it down, and then take forever to reinvent the wheel anyway.
Or maybe Apple Music is more of a mess internally than we thought.
The real delay was probably in the debate between whether to actually release the app or to do it as part of the Apple Music app. I would love to see a complete overhaul of the Music app. I think with the improvements to the back end it seems they would have to make to properly support classical music anyway, that would probably be the way to go.
That's really the key. It's not classical versus the rest, it's deep-metadata-needed versus track/artist/album-is-enough. Jazz listeners are every bit as cranky about the need for deep metadata, because they need to know the difference between two different live performances by the exact same artists doing the exact same work with the exact same soloists and the exact same songwriters.
I hope they’re smart and just focus on improving the core product. I don’t want to see them start going the Google route of separate apps for everything that don’t talk to each other.
The more I think about it this is one of the core differences between them. Apple is supposed to be one cohesive unit. It’s un-Apple-like to have two things so similar be two different things when they could be one that does both well.
I can't name anybody who listens to classical music either. However, there was a movie called Amadeus made in the 80's (about Mozart) which is highly acclaimed even to this day. It won many awards. So, there are more than just a few people listening. Also you would get more appreciation out of "Rock Me, Amadeus" by Falco if you know who Mozart is.
I would welcome the ability to add extensive metadata to every type of music. But, it seems like the ideal UI/UX for pop music and the ideal UI/UX for classical music would be very different and the simplest way to accomplish that would be separate apps. You could have one app that reads the metadata to determine whether to show the pop or classical (or jazz) interface, but then you'd be depending on the metadata to be complete and/or correct which it frequently is not.
Exactly this. They're now calling it "Apple Music Classical" inside of Apple Music.
I see the need for a completely different navigation and browsing experience for classical music from contemporary music with an emphasis on composers, and that seems to justify a separate app, but a simple toggle could accomplish the same thing while sharing all the underlying streaming and playback architecture. Perhaps there won't even be a toggle. Classical music listeners will just be shown different options based on their listening and search history.
I'm going to guess it's going to appear in the side bar where iTunes Store currently lives and is optional.
Overall, given the lack of evidence of another app separate from Apple Music, this may turn out to be a service inside of Apple Music that will simply be turned on at the server level. I'd bet the farm that it'll coincide with iOS 16.3 given the already appearing changes in Apple Music.
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I am one of about 3 people looking forward to this - would love a better UI. The UI in Apple Music is one of the worst experiences of any app that I use (but I still use it a bunch)
Yea but people still talk about it, people don't talk online about classical music.
That's spot on. You can add to it that subgenres of "Classical" are seldom elaborated. The current system works, though, if you are playing background music in waiting rooms...
Indian Classical music has yet again a different way of organizing music and recordings. Do we need a separate app that would not play an afternoon raga in the morning?
It would be good if an international body of standards would address all these issues together thoroughly, the way Unicode does.
It could be licensing or artist payments. Apple Music (like most streaming services) pays per song played. Primephonic paid by time played, which makes sense since a classical song is probably 10 times longer than a commercial pop song.
Maybe they just don't talk about it in the forums you frequent, like macrumors....
Mass culture doesn’t talk about it so much, but there are definitely people who talk about it online. TalkClassical is a notable classical music forum.
I bet they do in different places than you visit.
Can't wait. I go to sleep listening to classical music.