Then why can the companies record my call when I phone them? Apple itself does that. On my last call to their support number they told me they were recording my phone call. Honestly I think it’s fair for me to be able to record them as well.
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iOS 16.4 Adds Voice Isolation for Cellular Phone Calls
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That's a lousy reason to not implement it. I should be allowed to record a call if I want to and face any consequences of that recording myself.
It feels so stupid to have to use another device and speakerphone to record a call for legal reasons, when there is no technical reason the iPhone couldn't do this directly.
I guess this means no one will hear me subtly playing Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up" in the background when I answer phone calls anymore. 😢
That voice isolation feature is going to be very useful. I hope this is available to all iPhone models, including my iPhone 8, and not just the latest ones.
Maybe this was the reason they removed the noise cancellation feature from the iPhone 13 and 14… or this is a different feature?
Maybe this was the reason they removed the noise cancellation feature from the iPhone 13 and 14… or this is a different feature?
Need to bring back the ringback tones
this is tremendously unlikely to happen.
*unless* they were to set this to only work if the devices in a call were all iphones, thus they could control that if one user initiates a recording request, all users can opt in or decline. otherwise, the existence of such a feature would cause legal issues in a lot of places.
companies have to tell you a call may be recorded, and you can decline, but it means the call stops immediately.
wiretapping is the law you're looking for.
Voice isolation is a different technology, a much better one. Of course, this doesn't justify them removing noise cancellation for phone calls so long before they add voice isolation.This was a feature previous to the iPhone 13. There were even articles about how the noise cancelation option disappearing for the newest phones.
The iPhone 13's noise cancellation is gone and not coming back
Apple confirms the removal of the Phone Noise Cancellation accessibility feature on its newest phones.www.macworld.com
Apple may have dropped built-in noise cancellation on the iPhone 13
Apple's "Noise Cancellation" accessibility feature has been a staple on past iPhones, but may have been permanently removed from the iPhone 13.www.engadget.com
Apple confirms iPhone 13 series lacks noise cancellation during phone calls
The feature was available on previous generation iPhones for over a decade. Apple Support officially confirmed iPhone 13 series lacks call noise...www.gsmarena.com
It seems this is not very well understood, so it was hard to find an explanation, but I did find one. I find that outside of Apple products, software companies also refer to "voice isolation" and "noise cancellation" as two different things.
So what is voice isolation and how does it work?
Voice isolation technology utilises AI to remove all ambient/background noise by recognising the ‘noise’ in an environment and prioritising the primary voices in a conversation. Voice isolation software can even differentiate between the core person talking and babble in the background. It can also be applied to both real-time (VOIP calls, online meetings) and pre-recorded audio (such as podcasts or webinars), enhancing the quality of any conversation taking place in a noisy environment.What is the difference between Voice Isolation and Noise Cancellation?
You might think that you’ve experienced this before with a pair of headphones you’ve used, but noise cancellation and voice isolation are actually different things.
About GD time. Trying to have a quick conversation outside while walking on anything other than pavement or near a roadway is next to impossible without this feature. No idea why it took Apple this long to bring the feature to cellular calling but better late than never I guess.
In CA you can record who you’re speaking to if and only if you notify them at the very start of your call.
The difference is they inform the person “this call may be recorded or monitored for quality customer service” kind of thing.
If you inform people then it may be okay depending on the state/country. Many are single party consent.
I find face-time calls have much better audio so this is a good thing.
There are still a lot of call that I make that are not face-time.
There are still a lot of call that I make that are not face-time.
“What’s a phone call?” - kids these days.
I feel like something like that should have come out like 10 years ago. It probably isn't even a basic usage anymore, but when we lived in simpler times, making phone calls on the phone seemed really important. You did buy a "phone" afterall.
EDIT. Found it.
Is this done automatically or do you need to turn it on?
Is this done automatically or do you need to turn it on?
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I can attest that this works VERY well, especially when using AirPods Pro.
Finally, this feature is actually mind blowing good, I'm not sure what technical reason it wasn't enabled for phone calls since the beginning.
Ah, that makes sense. I just thought that as 16.4 RC was released today, they'd shown what was new.
Excited for this have had trouble with hearing calls outside for years this is better than any new emoji
I remember submitting this story to MacRumors but they've never acknowledged it here.This was a feature previous to the iPhone 13. There were even articles about how the noise cancelation option disappearing for the newest phones.
The iPhone 13's noise cancellation is gone and not coming back
Apple confirms the removal of the Phone Noise Cancellation accessibility feature on its newest phones.
Apple may have dropped built-in noise cancellation on the iPhone 13
Apple's "Noise Cancellation" accessibility feature has been a staple on past iPhones, but may have been permanently removed from the iPhone 13.
Apple confirms iPhone 13 series lacks noise cancellation during phone calls
The feature was available on previous generation iPhones for over a decade. Apple Support officially confirmed iPhone 13 series lacks call noise...
Though I think it's actually a different feature. Voice isolation in FaceTime requires iPhone XS/XR and later (unsure if it'll be the same for phone calls.) Noise cancellation existed before the XS.
wow thanks for explaining nothing.. they are both the same thing but one of them recognizes your voice and lets it pass through
Thank you MacRumors for answering the question in my post with a whole article. No sarcasm. This confirms what I suspected but was not sure of.