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iOS 16 Will Let iPhone Users Bypass CAPTCHAs in Supported Apps and Websites

nt5672 said:
The devil is in the details, which we don’t know yet.
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nt5672 said:
This could very well be a government mandated NSA backdoor protected by a national security letter. That way the NSA or other gov TLA orgs have direct evidence of what sites you are signing into and can turn on direct tracking in the browser. Tell me we've not heard of more outlandish things from NSA, FBI, CIA leakers.
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A 🪛 is needed.
 
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Hessian said:
Interesting theory.

Anything is possible, but not certain how a certification of authentication for outbound validation would allow remote access. Seems like saying new headlights will enable TSA to capture GPS of all the cars. The two functions are not closely related.
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Maybe it’s a corollary of the Internet thermostat theory?
 
Quick tip: if there's an "accessible" CAPTCHA offered, it's usually MUCH quicker to just listen to a 5 second audio clip and type a word or two of what it says -- versus clicking through multiple grids of blurry images that might have a motorcycle in them.
 
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LoveTo said:
But it was never about human verification. I recall watching a video that Google had found a way to verify human activity with just the mouse movements and other parameters. Captchas were still reintroduced so they can train their car driving AIs for free. That’s why the captchas always only have images related to driving/roads/backgrounds.
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I recall watching a video saying that Princess Diana, Michael Jackson, and JRK Jr are still alive.
 
The picture grid captchas are repetitive, but the ones that really annoy me are the ones with artsy letters and numbers, where they consistently have a lower case L and/or an upper case i or three, just to test with “human readable” text. Every time I get one of these I get annoyed at the machine that is asking me to prove I’m human by throwing me an archaic typographic design mistake. They aren’t using actual words, so eliminating these letters from the test would be so simple, but I assume the designers leave them in for a laugh. Either that, or the robots really have taken over those tests and they don’t realize the difference!
 
LoveTo said:
But it was never about human verification. I recall watching a video that Google had found a way to verify human activity with just the mouse movements and other parameters. Captchas were still reintroduced so they can train their car driving AIs for free. That’s why the captchas always only have images related to driving/roads/backgrounds.
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True, but most forget Captchas can bring also to companies beyond Google.
 
ian87w said:
Interesting. Hopefully it reaches wide support, although I doubt that some companies would. Eg I don’t think Google would support this as solving captcha is a way to train Google’s AI, or so I’m told… 😀
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Yeah. We are doing unpaid work teaching Google’s driverless cars how to recognise buses! We should unionise the world.
 
LoveTo said:
But it was never about human verification. I recall watching a video that Google had found a way to verify human activity with just the mouse movements and other parameters. Captchas were still reintroduced so they can train their car driving AIs for free. That’s why the captchas always only have images related to driving/roads/backgrounds.
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You’re probably not wrong. If it were about human verification, there would be a way to correct incorrect captchas. I think we’ve all been in the situation where part of the thing you’re supposed to click on in a captcha has such a small bit in one square and you just don’t know whether the AI expects you to click on it or not. There was another time when I was filling out a captcha, it asked me to click on pictures of fire hydrants. There was a picture of a red and yellow mailbox with a vaguely fire hydrant shape. I thought to myself, “it’s definitely not a fire hydrant but I could just see a stupid AI program ‘thinking’ it was.” I didn’t click it, and sure enough, it told me to click on the remaining fire hydrants. I click on the mailbox, and it let me in.
 
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OMG!!! PREACH! I had one website that I had to go through several 'images' to 'prove I was human'. I had 'too many failures' and had to come back to it the next day. They eventually dropped it because the bar was so high it was keeping real people out of their accounts. Several websites I've been to over the years had announcements that they dropped Captcha verification. Good for you, sorry I missed the fun.

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CapitalIdea said:
Time for the EU to threaten to fine them for monopolizing convenience.
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That’s a cheap take.

i think you got the wrong opinion about the EU and how many people from the EU view it.

The EU would absolutely interfere against abusing your market share or other things. But the EU is not against progress or convenience.

Regulation is not the devil. Think about net neutrality for example.
 
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nt5672 said:
The devil is in the details, which we don't know yet.

This could very well be a government mandated NSA backdoor protected by a national security letter. That way the NSA or other gov TLA orgs have direct evidence of what sites you are signing into and can turn on direct tracking in the browser. Tell me we've not heard of more outlandish things from NSA, FBI, CIA leakers.
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Sir, you forgot to put your tinfoil hat on
 
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Agent007 said:
Why the hell wouldn't they release this for Mac, too? They may be paying more attention to the Mac but it's not enough.
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The article says it does/will, but I have 13.0 and haven't been able to find it.

Apple said the feature is also supported on macOS Ventura. All of the software updates are currently in beta and will be released later this year.
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zoozx said:
What about DESKTOPS using Monterey and forward?
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"In the first betas of iOS 16 and iPadOS 16, Automatic Verification is enabled by default. Apple said the feature is also supported on macOS Ventura. All of the software updates are currently in beta and will be released later this year."
 
Are many apps actually using CAPTCHAs? It is common on the web but not so much in apps unless they are loading a web interface. And I don't see many websites actually using this feature because it would require adding more logic to a service most don't provide themselves. Unless Google integrates it into reCAPTCHA, this will not have much impact.
 
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