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I understand this new version will locate your iPhone and reduce the power only if the iPhone detects your in France. As soon as you travel to another country it will set the power back to its usual higher value, right?
Nobody here knows how it’s implemented. All answers you get will be speculation.
 
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I don't have particular skin in this game, I'm just genuinely wondering what the benefit of Apple's existing approach is?

If the phone reduces power anytime it's on or near my body, the improved reception doesn't actually mean I can use the phone with better reception.

It's Saturday morning and I may need a coffee, but what am I actually gaining?
 

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Well the FDA just decided sudafed and everything else with phenylephrine in it is useless too.
https://www.fda.gov/media/171915/download

Back to iOS 17. I'm suddenly struggling with battery life on my 12 mini so hopefully 17.1 improves things. Also had a couple of random shutdowns when using the camera.
 
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In case this is news, you can't stick your head in a microwave oven when it is on. The door is closed.
Yep and if you believe that is completely not possible, then I have a nice clean bridge you can buy for a really low cost. If you're interested PM me.
 
Yeah I can't believe how many people seem to be (willfully?) misunderstanding the issue here. If anything, blame France for not testing properly. The information given by both sides is straightforward and non-conflicting. Apple cares about user health, France cares about user health. A bureaucratic process just missed a detail here and caused problems for everyone.

No one is going to get any lower radiation levels as this doesn't actually affect the amount of radiation anyone was receiving, since it wasn't transmitting at this power level near humans in the first place. Now it just won't transmit at that power level at all, ever. That transmission level is something France agreed to in the first place, this is simply an error in the testing process.
Blame 🇨🇦, blame 🇨🇦
 
That's working as intended, at least the car part. You shouldn't be using earbuds when driving anyways, and if you're not driving let the driver connect to the car radio instead.

Dear Lord, thanks for the lecture.
I didn't say anything about driving.
Have you never entered your car while on the phone and cranked it up and sat in it for a while?
 
As I've expressed several times before: too many updates. I think from now on, I'll update one time only. I'll wait until a whole new iOS version comes out, then it's inedible first correction, then I'll update. After that, I'll just ignore the rest until it happens again. I can't be bothered with this stuff, and I don't use auto-updates.
 
A feature that controls radiation level based on body proximity would seem to exemplify a company that DOES take user's health seriously. Why would you conclude the opposite? A company that just didn't care wouldn't bother implementing such a complex feature.
They care because if they don’t, they can face the potential consequence of unable to sell iPhone in France from now on. It has nothing to do with protecting our health.
 
As I've expressed several times before: too many updates. I think from now on, I'll update one time only. I'll wait until a whole new iOS version comes out, then it's inedible first correction, then I'll update. After that, I'll just ignore the rest until it happens again. I can't be bothered with this stuff, and I don't use auto-updates.
“B…but security updates! And your action put everyone else in danger!”

Seriously tho, I wish iOS had the feature to just disable update check completely unless I explicitly enter the menu and tap “check update”. Just don’t send me notification on new update available. Windows had this feature since afaik at least windows XP. iOS not having it is mind boggling.
 
At literally one thousand watts, no, you shouldn't feel safe doing that. At one millionth that power level, you do it every day already just by being around wifi.

Turn on and FM radio and think for a bit about all the radio frequencies with data and therefore energy on them passing through your skull right now. And there are warning signs at the base of those radio towers telling you not to get any closer and not to hang around there for too long.

I'm not a scientist, I'm not saying it's safe, I'm just saying that ship sailed like a hundred years ago.
Right, and there are industrial safety practices for RF exposure. Had to learn some of them myself as a radio amateur. Stuff like field strength, power level, and the inverse-square law play a big role in how much (or really, how little) power your cell phone puts out. Your cellphone operates at power levels less than a watt, for instance. Typical commercial and amateur handheld two way radios (HTs, such as the Baofeng UV-5R, for instance) typically put out 1 watt at low power and upwards of 5 watts at high power and have a large practically* isotropic (meaning it sends signals evenly in all directions) antenna. For instance, cell phones generally don’t cause any issue with pacemakers unless you’re lying in bed holding your phone over your chest and you inadvertently drop your phone, that’s how low power they are.


* Well, it’s a vertical dipole, so the signal null (the area of an antenna where the signal is attenuated) is along the axis of the antenna (ie out its base and its tip, also known as “directly into the ground and outer space”, a good place for a signal null for terrestrial radio).
 
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I don't have particular skin in this game, I'm just genuinely wondering what the benefit of Apple's existing approach is?

If the phone reduces power anytime it's on or near my body, the improved reception doesn't actually mean I can use the phone with better reception.

It's Saturday morning and I may need a coffee, but what am I actually gaining?
Your phone can transmit with more power when, say, it’s on your desk and you’re on speakerphone or you’re using data (say, streaming a YouTube video). Since it can transmit with more power, it can work if the signal from the cell tower is a little weaker. It might also be able to detect the difference between “being in your hands” and “being next to your head”.
 
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Apple's upcoming iOS 17.1 update is set to be released to the public by October 24, according to the French regulatory group ANFR (via iPhoneSoft). The release date was shared on the ANFR's website in an update outlining Apple's plan to address radiation levels in the iPhone 12.

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"Apple has committed to deploy an update in France," reads a translation of the update, which is in French. "This fix will be available to all users no later than October 24."

Apple earlier this week confirmed that iOS 17.1 will include a tweak that will lower iPhone 12 radiation levels. Back in September, France ordered Apple to stop selling the iPhone 12 and "fix" devices to bring them into compliance with European electromagnetic radiation standards. The order came after the ANFR found that the iPhone 12's Specific Absorption Rate (SAR) came in at 5.74 watts per kilogram, above the limit set by the European Union.

According to Apple, the ANFR made an error in its radiation tests, using a testing protocol that did not account for the off-body detection mechanism in the iPhone. iPhones have a built-in feature that allows them to increase their transmit power when not held on the body for optimized cellular performance.

Apple says that the off-body detection has been "thoroughly tested and verified internationally to be an effective mechanism to comply with SAR requirements," bur nevertheless, the company has agreed to disable this feature on iPhones in France.

According to Apple, the iPhone 12 is safe to use "and always has been." After the iOS 17.1 update, iPhone 12 models in France will no longer increase their transmit power when the off-body state is detected, so coverage in areas where cellular signal is low may cause lower cellular performance in some use cases.

The iOS 17.1 update brings a number of other changes to the iOS 17 operating system, including an Apple Music favorites system, support for AirDrop over the internet, new options to see bank and card balances in the Wallet app, changes to the iPhone 15 Pro Action Button and more, with a full list available in our iOS 17.1 features guide.

Article Link: iOS 17.1 to Launch by October 24
Does anyone know when WatchOS 10.1 could be released?
 
I can’t believe we’re talking about updates to fix radiation levels. What a crapshoot Apple is sometimes.
It's France, and it's not the radiation you think it is. LOL

I can't believe how many sheeple there are? (Yes you!) The real issue that should be discussed is the Apple Music new like system that messes with my Albums, and actually starts putting single liked songs in Albums.
 
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I don't have particular skin in this game, I'm just genuinely wondering what the benefit of Apple's existing approach is?

If the phone reduces power anytime it's on or near my body, the improved reception doesn't actually mean I can use the phone with better reception.

It's Saturday morning and I may need a coffee, but what am I actually gaining?

Better chance of actually receiving the incoming call if the phone is sitting on your desk, for one.

The advice for a long time has been to not actually hold your phone up to your head in the traditional handset style if you can avoid it. For every use case except that specific one, this would result in better signal. And Apple would happily tell you to set the phone on your desk and use your AirPods and Watch to control it. Which I do, and it does actually result in noticeably better phone calls.
 
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Nobody here knows how it’s implemented. All answers you get will be speculation.

Rumors, even. Most likely explanation is just to adjust the power when it’s connected to a French telecom. I believe that is technically the only legal requirement. But yes, that’s just an inference from what was said.
 
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