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"Quite unlikely" was the thinking around someone hanging out to observe you entering your passcode before taking your phone.

My point is that Apple have already significantly improved an average person’s iPhone protection with this update. While it is not perfect (and what is?), it is still much better than before.
 
enabled stolen protection mode.

a bit confused about what would be considered "familiar locations".

ln learn more section, it was said the mode works with "significant locations" which i have over 280!

i played with turning on/off the mode at one end of my office building, it looked ios did not consider my location "familiar"

do any figure out what are familiar locations?

also, anyone knows why once a while the lock screen prompts me to enter passcode to enable faceid, which is not so safe when i am in public area. i suppose stolen protection mode would force biometric authentication when the user is in an unfamiliar location.

i also wish a setting to adjust the security delay timer.
 
I wish it had call screening like the pixel 8 where it puts the person opn hold talks to them and gives you the information so you can accept the call or reject or block it, seeing that on my friends Pixel 8 made me realise how little apple cares about useful features but gives us journals <sigh> Then again Apple would have to have a decent AI to do this and Siri would probably tell the caller it cant get the weather right now instead!
 
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Regarding stolen device protection, and assuming you have significant locations turned on, couldn’t the thief just drive to your house (address probably is in your contact info), park at the street, and then use the passcode with no delay? Or am I missing something?
yes. that's possible if the thief knows how protection mode works.

you may turn off the significant location, hence ios will consider all locations are unfamiliar, that may cause a lot of hassle though.
 
Find My is an iPhone feature. You're speaking of the benefits of an Android device. I'm asking what happens if someone steals your Android phone, and has your passcode? I'm asking because I don't know.
Every phone has find my feature.
https://www.google.com/android/find/ etc. Android has more possibilities and features than the iPhone when it comes to that.
Nothing will happen if someone has your passcode, as most phones allow you to lock your gallery etc with another passcode. Since like 2017 by the way.

Android isn't as bad as people make it out to be on this forum. Androids do get updates, are secure and recently DankPods switched from iPhone to Samsung and loves Samsung way more than the iPhone.
 
Every phone has find my feature.
https://www.google.com/android/find/ etc. Android has more possibilities and features than the iPhone when it comes to that.
Nothing will happen if someone has your passcode, as most phones allow you to lock your gallery etc with another passcode. Since like 2017 by the way.

Android isn't as bad as people make it out to be on this forum. Androids do get updates, are secure and recently DankPods switched from iPhone to Samsung and loves Samsung way more than the iPhone.
Talking about password locking gallery, app could have app specific password to protect access.

I had been a happy android user over 10 yrs before switching to iOS. Android is good for its flexibility, but it is bad for its flexibility too.
 
So, 1) can someone nefariously turn on ‘significance’ or 2) where it’s turned on already, change the home address to their address, w/out the 1hr delay? In both cases, can nefarious actor fool lost mode into ‘thinking’ it’s at ‘home’ when really it’s at the home of said nefarious actor? I see nothing in this MR write-up to protect this ‘back-door’. Anyone?

Also, hopefully, it sends an email/text to say it’s in 1hr lock-down mode. This can be picked up on other logged in devices & has benefit of telling thief that, until battery drains, location discovery/recovery attempts are in effect. Hopefully, he’ll dump the device.
The mode works with the logged significant locations (location frequently visited)

Change of the home addr should not work!
 
I never actually lost access to my wishlist, but I know many people did. I see that access is now added back for everyone, but what I don’t see is a way to add new items to it. Is that no longer an option at all?? Or am I just missing something?
 
Stolen device protection sounds worthwhile, but I note that it works via 'significant locations' to determine when it's away from a safe location (home, work). I have significant locations turned off within Location Services, but I was able to enable stolen device mode. I guess that means my phone will assume that it's never in a safe location and biometrics will always be required for making high-level account changes. That seems like a win to me as there are hundreds of people where I work who could steal my phone, so my work is definitely not a 'safe location'.
If I'm not mistaken "Significant Locations" also uses WiFi and Bluetooth to determine certain frequent locations.
 
It was reported that all iPhone models going back to iPhone XS should be able to use this feature as long as it is using iOS 17.
Well I have iphone se (2022) and the stolen device protection feature option isnt showing up on my phone so. I think this is happening to other people too so this might be a glitch in ios 17.3.
 
Have you checked under Settings > FaceID & Passcode? For me it is found under there, but no splash-screen.
Yup I checked there and the option isn't showing up. I actually dont have face id I have touch id as my phone isnt compatible for face id as my iphone is se (2022) but I use passcode. BUT YES I checked under touch id/passcode and device protection option isn't there so its prob just a glitch. No big deal I wouldnt have turned it on anyways
 
If I'm not mistaken "Significant Locations" also uses WiFi and Bluetooth to determine certain frequent locations.
If I understand correctly, turning off significant location means not to record the frequently visited location hence not to use it for other services. There is another button to clear the location history.
 
No, I'm speaking of the benefits of android which has similar nomenclature...on android technically it's called find "my device" but it's the same thing.

Do I need to repeat the part of my comment that you quoted which answers your own question? Android's passcode does not have the same vulnerability that iPhone's does. The device passcode does not provide access to any linked account i.e. google/samsung, etc where your passwords, find my device, etc.
Thank you for providing an explanation. You can repeat whatever you want if it contributes positively to better understanding for all involved in this discussion.
 
Since update Find my iPhone just shows sound pending when trying to locate my device and stolen device protection doesn’t appear for me?
 
Yup I checked there and the option isn't showing up. I actually dont have face id I have touch id as my phone isnt compatible for face id as my iphone is se (2022) but I use passcode. BUT YES I checked under touch id/passcode and device protection option isn't there so its prob just a glitch. No big deal I wouldnt have turned it on anyways
Probably only for iPhones with Face ID feature. Interesting.
 
Not sure about all androids but Samsung provides 3-4 years worth (4 for flagship devices i.e. S24) and Pixel is now a market leader at 7 years though let's see if Google sticks with it.
So actually, starting with Galaxy S24 AND Pixel 8, both offer 7 years of security and OS updates, iPhone is behind.
 
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