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Say it with me: This wouldn't have even been a possibility if the EU kept their noses out.

Sure...it was Apple's choice. But it is a choice that wouldn't have even been thought of if the EU left things alone. This can all be tied back to their incessant need to meddle in everything.
With the same logic you could say that Apple's unfair business practices forced the EU to act.
 
There is also no directive that a website needs a cookiebanner / cookiewall. However almost every website has one these days. It's the same. It's stupid. It annoys. And it doesn't do what you actually want it do.

And this is because of how the EU makes these legislation.
All the EU said here was "no cookies" and "yes app stores".

It's the companies that want to track you so badly that they'd rather scream in your face all the ways they're going to violate your privacy than simply respecting it.

And Apple wants to keep you off alternative app stores so badly, that they're willing to ruin their own customer experience over it.

But yeah, keep blaming the EU for making it less convenient for companies to reach such goals.
 
With the same logic you could say that Apple's unfair business practices forced the EU to act.
They weren't "forced" to act. iOS has been this way since day 1. The EU wasn't "forced" to do anything. Guess what? They made a CHOICE! They could've kept their noses out, but they CHOSE to meddle. And as is typical with governments...it was a pretty poor choice, at that.
 
They weren't "forced" to act. iOS has been this way since day 1. The EU wasn't "forced" to do anything. Guess what? They made a CHOICE! They could've kept their noses out, but they CHOSE to meddle. And as is typical with governments...it was a pretty poor choice, at that.
I agree that the EU was not forced to do this. This is pre-emptive legislation to try to prevent abuse from the so-called 'gatekeepers'.

As for whether it was a poor choice... Well I'm more open minded on that. I think it's a good thing that the EU is trying to prevent predatory practice before it becomes a pattern, and I hope it works.
 
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I am in the EU and many here actually love the cookie screen, because it gives them the option to opt out of all non-essential cookies with a click.

There was some controversy though, because cookies are opt-in in the EU, while in many EU countries organ donations after your death are opt-out. So your organs are less protected than your privacy.
 
A new nightmare for the EU citizens after the cookies fiasco.

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The EU mandated that websites stop tracking customers with cookies altogether.

Websites then decided they didn’t want to do this so make you agree to it every time you visit.

It’s incredibly annoying to do so but place your ire in the right place and blame the websites who want to sell your data for ads.
 
The EU mandated that websites stop tracking customers with cookies altogether.

Websites then decided they didn’t want to do this so make you agree to it every time you visit.

It’s incredibly annoying to do so but place your ire in the right place and blame the websites who want to sell your data for ads.
If the EUs aim was to make it so that websites don’t track customers then they should outlaw the reason why cookies are required in the first place. The cookies would naturally go away if the reason for their existence went away.

The trouble is the EU never actually tackles the underlying issue.
 
All of the Apple bashers always toss out their conspiracy theories about Apple's motivations and about how they're oBvIoUSly AcTiNg iN bAd fAiTh... Here's a thought: what if this is just an attempt to guard their end users against malware?

That could look something like this: Perhaps Apple has reasonably concluded that apps submitted going forward (by way of both the official store and alternative stores) could potentially have a hidden "app store" function of their own, enabling them to install additional (presumably more malicious) apps upon or after initial launch. Thus, the real "payload" of the malware potentially hides from the review process entirely (assuming that there even is one, in the case of third-party stores) by simply not existing on the device until some point after the initial app's installation. (This isn't theoretical; malware on other platforms very commonly download and activate additional viral payloads after the initial component establishes a beachhead on the system... but that's never actually been possible on iOS. Until now.)

With this verification screen standing in front of the installation API, an end user could know immediately when subsequent installations are attempted and could proactively halt that potentially malicious activity, instead of having to wait for Apple to issue a reactive virus/malware definition update.
 
Mac doesn’t have a scare screen quite like this, why would iOS need it?
It has gatekeeper, with a similar goal, and it’s still easy for many user to mess up. Since iOS was better designed from the beginning, they should avoid going into the wrong direction as much as they can.
 
Say it with me: this is solely Apple’s choice.


Mac doesn’t have a scare screen quite like this, why would iOS need it?
The Mac literally does though?
By default now in Safari, if you’re downloading anything, you have to click “allow” on the Safari pop-up that lets you actually download the file.
Then, once you download the DMG and move the app to your applications folder, if it’s verified you get a pop-up asking if “you are sure you want to open this”? And again, you have to click “open” if you actually want the app to open.
If the app isn’t verified, you have to write click it and click “open”, then click “open” again on the warning pop-up.
 
Imagine it started doing this on the Mac.
It has. For years.
Started all the way back in Mountain Lion, and has continued with even more additional warning screens.
You have to allow safari to download things from certain websites, you have to verify that you’d like to open the application you downloaded, and if it is not verified, you have to write click it to get it to open and again go through a warning screen.
 
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It has. For years.
Started all the way back in Mountain Lion, and has continued with even more additional warning screens.
You have to allow safari to download things from certain websites, you have to verify that you’d like to open the application you downloaded, and if it is not verified, you have to write click it to get it to open and again go through a warning screen.
Which is a sign of Apple’s paranoid over-nannying rather than the actions of an outside entity.
 
If the EUs aim was to make it so that websites don’t track customers then they should outlaw the reason why cookies are required in the first place. The cookies would naturally go away if the reason for their existence went away.

The trouble is the EU never actually tackles the underlying issue.
The point was to stop websites invisibly tracking. The websites not just operate in the open.
 
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It's basically the same EU ideocracy as the "cookiebanner" each website has these days. Nobody reads them, just clicks on install. And the worst part is, it annoys most people.
I do not see why Apple cannot give us a way to click for never ask again for this site (or wait 30 days or something like that). Same for location. My answer is no almost everytime. Maybe an icon next to the search bar noting action may be required. Similar to the way the website is asking for a popup window. No click required if you want to say no.
 
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Wow cool. Even better... can't install Apps at all atm with latest Public Beta: Appstore simply crashes
 
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