The amount of people who can't see the obvious sarcasm of your post is the real disaster.
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iOS 17.4 Nerfs Web Apps in the EU
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So all the extensions that are active for a profile, are active for that PWA? Or just the extensions that were enabled when you created the PWA? Or maybe each PWA has its own extension configuration in settings?
I’m asking because if this behavior continues, I’ll probably install 17.3.1 on all my devices before this changes are applied.
Impractical and not the case anywhere imo. The domain blocking is usually enforced by the ISP.You know how your ad blocker app has a list of sites or URLs that it blocks, I’m wondering if the EU iOS version of Safari will start blocking sites that are not approved by the EU, is that why they’re removing this feature?
Oh… wait wait wait… I just tried to set this MR forum on iOS 16.6.1 and… it works!
I mean, I thought making PWA from webpages was an iOS 17 feature, maybe I mistook it for Sonoma, where this feature was implemented for the first time?
So PWAs on iOS 16 are the same thing as on iOS 17? Then, it’s decided, I’ll stay on iOS 16 for the foreseeable future.
Wow, I just discovered a whole new iOS feature that was already available for a long time! Does this work on iPadOS as well? I have to try it!
I mean, I thought making PWA from webpages was an iOS 17 feature, maybe I mistook it for Sonoma, where this feature was implemented for the first time?
So PWAs on iOS 16 are the same thing as on iOS 17? Then, it’s decided, I’ll stay on iOS 16 for the foreseeable future.
Wow, I just discovered a whole new iOS feature that was already available for a long time! Does this work on iPadOS as well? I have to try it!
Microsoft tried to offer their browser for some functions in Windows and got nailed for it. This is just Apple taking the other approach. In the end, people aren't fully happy with either.
Yeah, it's an iOS feature implemented by a custom browser based on WebKit. Apple can't use their own browsers and have to defer to a user installed browser? They're going to have to function like bookmarklets.
It'd be nice if they continued the old approach if you left Safari the default, though, that's for sure.
It's not all about revenue and finances.
Humanity arguably goes downhill too (Russian expansion, Izrael X Palestine conflict, Iran, North Korea and Russian serious threats of nuclear conflict, global warming...).
Yet humanity is the most developed and most wealthy - but still going downhill in some aspects. Keep this in mind when judging whether Apple is going uphill or downhill. There are multiple aspects you can judge Apple by. Revenue and finances are just one of them.
People can make this about whatever they want. This is not about humanity or who has or who doesn't have. This is about some philosophical arguments about what Apple has created and who does it belong to and where is it going.
Of course, Apple is a parable about the three blind men and the elephant. People make it what they want.
I generally don't bother with generic, low-effort replies that seem like they could be copied-and-pasted to any thread, and I suggest you don't either.
Of course it's philosophical when it's not about hard numbers.
What's wrong on discussing on a philosophical level and writing down commenter's opinion? Aren't we all just sharing our own opinions?
Granted, OP could have shared more details about why exactly he believes Apple is going downhill.
I'm appalled by this. Surely Apple could for the moment limit PWAs to using Safari (in PWA mode)?
We've just finished developing a PWA. It's the only way a small developer can keep an app alive these days. All the requirements of App store and Play store are putting far too much overhead on small developers. Not to mention the required updates to meet latest APK/API version requirements (many of these continuously introduce breaking changes in frameworks)
We've just finished developing a PWA. It's the only way a small developer can keep an app alive these days. All the requirements of App store and Play store are putting far too much overhead on small developers. Not to mention the required updates to meet latest APK/API version requirements (many of these continuously introduce breaking changes in frameworks)
If your website is explicitly designed as a PWA, then it probably should work in 17.4 Safari, even in the EU, but I guess we will just have to wait and see. There's maybe still a month to go?I'm appalled by this. Surely Apple could for the moment limit PWAs to using Safari (in PWA mode)?
We've just finished developing a PWA. It's the only way a small developer can keep an app alive these days. All the requirements of App store and Play store are putting far too much overhead on small developers. Not to mention the required updates to meet latest APK/API version requirements (many of these continuously introduce breaking changes in frameworks)
Hi All,
I'm not happy with all the changes Apple is introducing with IOS 17.4 for people living in the EU. These changes are a thread to user experience.
Do you know if it is some kind op opt-in when you live in the EU or when you live in the EU you get these new regulations forced onto your device?
Is there a way from user perspective you can setup your device so you avoid the EU regulations?
Thanks!
I'm not happy with all the changes Apple is introducing with IOS 17.4 for people living in the EU. These changes are a thread to user experience.
Do you know if it is some kind op opt-in when you live in the EU or when you live in the EU you get these new regulations forced onto your device?
Is there a way from user perspective you can setup your device so you avoid the EU regulations?
Thanks!
Don’t install third party marketplaces, I guess 🤷🏻♂️
And if you don’t want third party browsers with different engines, just keep using Safari.
That is indeed one way, but still the functionality around PWA gets fully disabled in the EU if I understand it correctly. Imho this is not the right move from the EU. That's why I would like to have a way around the new regulations.
I'm appalled by this. Surely Apple could for the moment limit PWAs to using Safari (in PWA mode)?
We've just finished developing a PWA. It's the only way a small developer can keep an app alive these days. All the requirements of App store and Play store are putting far too much overhead on small developers. Not to mention the required updates to meet latest APK/API version requirements (many of these continuously introduce breaking changes in frameworks)
Prepare for hordes of fanboys to call you ungrateful and tell you to get a new job...
It's not like the EU explicitly forbade Apple from keeping PWA functionality, Apple did this to themselves and now we're paying the price
'Looks like US consumers are getting protection from big tech monopoly by EU regulators... though it may take a while to trickle over here.