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winxmac

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iPhone SE 2020 and iPhone SE 2022 will be the only remaining models with home button still supported...

iOS 17 and iPadOS 17 may require A12 Bionic and newer

I have checked the base iPad models and there is no A11 Bionic version... iPad Air 3 uses A12 Bionic so it is possible that it will be the minimum supported chipset... Also, iPhone 8/8 Plus/X are all on limited support on iOS 16 and they may get dropped once iOS 17 is announced/released...
 

boyarka

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They'll drop that down to 3 years soon enough. Battery will be welded into the phone body but anyone willing to change it themselves (and continue enjoying no os updates) can do so with tooling costs 2-4x the phone price and wait 3 hours in tech support cue to get replacement battery "calibrated".
 

morphineseason

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Apr 1, 2007
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So 5 years seems to be apples limit now.
Always was, as far back as I can remember. Big reason why I got out of the Mac ecosystem (still clinging to iPhone/Watch and Apple TV at least). It's wasteful to be throwing away devices that could potentially last another 5+ years on top of that, but when they even drop support for security updates, you don't have much of a choice.
 

Tripps9000

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Dec 27, 2021
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Well that sucks about the iPhone 8 loosing support that was one of my backup phones😑
 

Syk

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Jun 20, 2010
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I plan to update my X this year. Battery showing it's age plus I want to get on 5G, so I'll get the 15 and probably keep it 5 years too.
 

supergt

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Feb 22, 2019
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iPad 7th gen. is just over three years old. At the very least it needs to get iPad OS 17 and 18.
 

Yebubbleman

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May 20, 2010
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I wonder if the iPad Pro 2018 and 2020 will drop support at the same time?

The 2020 have 6gb ram instead of 4gb ram (aside from the 1tb model), and a better gpu, but both have the same A12 cpu.
Hopefully it takes a couple of years to do that.
I wonder this often. I think if they do cut off the 2018, but not the 2020 and/or if they make 4GB vs. 6GB the real dividing line, A12X/A12Z iPads that get let in will run whatever iPadOS version that the 4GB iPad Pros were disallowed from like crap.
 
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bigboy29

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A11 Bionic and iPhone X is getting pretty old in the tooth, that was late 2017. I don't know that many who still have that phone considering how we got several better form factors after that.
FWIW - I think the iPhone X is the best form factor of them all. I would buy a Pro series iPhone of that size any day of the week. Current Pro phones are (IMO) too large.
 

tipoo

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Any technical reason for the cutoff, or just old? Everything in iOS has been full 64 bit for a while, supports Metal, there's supported devices with similar RAM, what would be the technical line?

I hope this isn't becoming like macs, where the last few Intel cutoffs didn't seem to have any technical barrier apart from them wanting to retire old hardware.
 
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tipoo

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> The only exceptions would be the sixth-generation and seventh-generation iPad models with the A10 Fusion chip and the second-generation 10.5-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pro with the A10X Fusion chip.

This is really rather strange. If the A10 iPad can run iOS17, the A11 iPhone X should be able to. So this doesn't sound like a technical cutoff at all, but rather a "that's old, we don't want to support it anymore" one.
 
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