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iOS 17 Rumored to Drop Support for iPhone X, First-Generation iPad Pro, and More
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Apple does its generations for iPads Pros based on screen size. We're on the fourth generation 11" Pro (the first was the A12X model from 2018), but we're on the sixth generation 12.9" iPad Pro because there were two generations prior to the 2018 model that were basically blown up versions of the old design with the same screen size, plus a 9.7" iPad with the guts of the Pro that existed for I believe one model year.
I retured my iPhone X a few years ago because I wanted 3GPP NR 5G support. But now, I will replace my iPhone 12 with an iPhone 15 Plus 512 GB later this year.
A button is much easier to explain, and is there all the time. When the phone is in landscape mode the swipe up makes less sense, because there's not a lot of space there.
Plus a lot of cases occlude the swipe area somewhat. I am using a 12 mini, but I find that swiping up sometimes is a PITA even on my 12 Pro Max (used as a camera)...especially in landscape mode.
That said, my mom had no problem moving to a 12 pro max, as far as I know...and I was her primary tech support person.
They better drop support for the studio display too then 🙄 the 11 is too new. They were still selling them as the better alternative to the SE last year and I bought one for someone
Sometimes you have to cut old ties. Supporting old equipment forever means making compromises. 5 years is enough!
iPad Pro with A10X will support iPadOS 17. It was launched earlier than iPhone X.
If by compromises, you mean Apple revenue, then you're right.
We want stability updates at this point and security updates won't offer that
Still going strong on my iPhone X, it is a bit slower sometimes than it used to be but otherwise it is still an amazing device and I don't feel the need to upgrade yet. 2025 for the punch hole camera sounds like a good upgrade to me.
iPad (2018) with A10/2GB supports iPadOS 17.
iPad Pro 10.5 (2017) with A10X/4GB supports iPadOS 17.
iPhone X (2017) with A11/3GB doesn't support iOS 17.
This has nothing to do with hardware, but rather what marketing decides.
But the thing is the features they 'may' introduce will not be so advanced that the older models cannot run them, or will they be severely crippled if they can't run the new features and they are disabled.
I mean the only new features they introduced into iPad OS was the new multi tasking system which is disabled on the older iPads anyway. Seems to me to be dropping support for the sake of it without knowing further information.
I mean the only new features they introduced into iPad OS was the new multi tasking system which is disabled on the older iPads anyway. Seems to me to be dropping support for the sake of it without knowing further information.
Exactly right, or the planned obsolescence Apple try's to deny so vehemently.
iPhone X was my favorite iPhone because it was perfect for one hand use and was the first iPhone to get rid of the home button for an all screen design... but mostly because I sold it for ETH when the 11 came out.
I haven't reviewed/read 6 pages of comments yet because of personal time constraints today lol but as an Apple user since 1994, I just don't get this. They like to keep people pushing to upgrade their devices, I get that- that's part of running a for-profit company, that answers to shareholders, etc...
iOS 17 and iPadOS 17 will drop support for the iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone X, first-generation 9.7-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pro, and fifth-generation iPad, according to a source with a proven track record for upcoming software updates. The devices in this list were released between November 2015 and November 2017.
If this rumor is accurate, iOS 17 and iPadOS 17 would be incompatible with most devices powered by the A11 Bionic chip or older. The only exceptions would be the sixth-generation and seventh-generation iPad models with the A10 Fusion chip and the second-generation 10.5-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pro with the A10X Fusion chip.
iPhones and iPads equipped with the A5 through A11 chip are affected by a bootrom security vulnerability that Apple cannot patch on these devices, as the bootrom operates in a read-only state. The exploit has allowed for these devices to be perpetually jailbroken on a wide range of iOS versions, allowing users to modify the iOS file system.
Last year, iOS 16 and iPadOS 16 dropped support for quite a few devices, including the iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, original iPhone SE, final iPod touch, second-generation iPad Air, and fourth-generation iPad mini.
Apple is expected to announce iOS 17 during its WWDC keynote on June 5.
Article Link: iOS 17 Rumored to Drop Support for iPhone X, First-Generation iPad Pro, and More
But does anyone *really* think that some of the older devices wouldn't be able to run this next update? I'd rather Apple offer older devices the ability to update- just give those users a notification that the older hardware has issues with animations, fluidness, etc.. It shouldn't just be a hard shut off IMHO. And yeah if you don't want to offer customer/tech support for those devices, I get that too... but give people the option.
New versions of iOS typically bring more bugs and stability issues, not less.
5-6 years isn’t enough. If the devices are still functional and capable (they are) then ending support is just another way for Apple to generate more unnecessary ewaste. Imagine if your car manufacturer ended support for your car after 6 years. “But cars are expected to last longer” why? Cost? Size? You can attempt to justify it using these metrics but the real reason cars are expected to last longer is because historically they have lasted longer. We could easily apply this same logic to electronics now that Moore’s law is slowing down. There was a point in time where a 5 year old device would be unusable, which is where this 5 year expectation originates. Now, My 5 year old XS and Macbook Pro work completely fine, and my expectations have changed. I would like to see official support for 10 years which is probably about when the hardware will become unusable.
At this point why brand iOS with a number anymore? Are they going to have iOS 57 eventually?
The devices will not suddenly stop working, they will continue to work for years to come. Those users just won’t get any of the new features, and eventually once the Xcode/development tools change they will stop supporting apps on those devices.
They also won't get the security updates, and even if they do get some updates, they're often later and not as complete as the newest OS. Security matters.
Security sure does matter, that’s why apple recently updated iOS 12 with a security update and older MacOS version. They will still get security updates, but no one knows for how long.