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iOS 17 Rumored to Feature 'Major' Changes to iPhone's Control Center
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Honestly, I don’t like that notifications are crammed into the Quick Settings panel on my Android tablet. There are so many more settings options and toggles in Control Center, at least in my experience. I like that Notification Center is a separate thing. If I want Notifications, I go there, if I want quick controls, I go to Control Center, both in one isn’t very appealing, and I wish that Android had an option to separate them into a system like Notification Center and Control Center instead of cramming everything together. But I understand that different people have different use cases and preferences.
That's completely fair enough, I think the fair solution would be for both iOS and Android to allow full customisation.
IOS 17 could have been IOS 16.X in all reality. IOS 16 was and still is a mess and 17 just seems like its trying to fix some of the many issues apple created with IOS 16.
Which is what a lot of us have been asking for. A significant release that’s focused as much as possible on fixing the myriad issues that iOS suffers from at the moment.
That is what we needed. No big flashy features used by a few. Lots of smaller, quality of life improvements and fixes. Better interoperability between platforms. Likely lots of bug fixes along the way. Early reports suggest that the beta is very stable.
if the control center changes didn't make it into 17, that's OK. we can wait.
I disagree that this could have been a 16.x update, because we actually did get some pretty nice brand new features in iOS 17 such as interactive widgets, a redesigned Messages app, and several other substantial improvements that aren’t generally introduced mid-cycle. But I do think that iOS 17 has less new features than 16, but really that’s a good thing from the perspective of stability and quality-of-life improvements. With updates that include big, flashy new features, Apple’s resources generally have to be focused towards those new features. With this update cycle, even in the first developer beta of iPadOS 17, I’m already seeing many smaller improvements, such as a new Multitasking & Gestures menu in the Settings app among other things. I think there will be lots of small refinements and improvements to the system over the update cycle that weren’t mentioned at the keynote or in the preview page.
Not saying that is a bad thing, just think it doesn't need it's own new number. I think the push for yearly OS releases is the reason we get so many bugs in the OS.
LOL. Interactive widgets were just an update to what was introduced in IOS 16. Messages, new stickers (Woohoo lol). Again all of the "features" they added could have easily been included in IOS 16.
Think what you want, but they are actually pretty large updates that wouldn’t normally be released in a mid-cycle update, especially when un-announced. By that logic, Stage Manager could have just been added in iPadOS 15, right? I think not. And widgets were introduced way back in iOS 14, but interactive widgets that you can actually tap to do things from the home screen are new, and not just a minor improvement like changing the color here or there. There’s fundamental code that has been changed.
Stage manager was (and still is) a hot mess. Again, IOS17 was a meh update (not saying that is a bad thing after the mess that was IOS16) but don't claim it is some huge update.
Whether or not Stage Manager was a mess or not is irrelevant to whether or not iOS 17 and iPadOS 17 are good updates, or if they deserve their own version number. I think they do deserve their own version number, because they introduced enough new features and changes to justify it. Besides, it would be extremely odd to do the same version of iOS and iPadOS for two years in a row. I like that Apple releases a new version of their software each year.
1. I never claimed it wasn't a "good update" I said it didn't warrant a new number (it doesn't, no matter how much you want to try and circle it as being so). A new update every year is unnecessary and leads to a myriad of bugs and issues (as seen most recently in IOS 16). They could still introduce features mid-year (like google does with their pixel feature drops) without needing an entirely new number update later on. The number means literally 0 in the scheme of things (except for users like you who think a new number means it brings meaningful changes to the OS as a whole). Do like they used to do with MacOS and stop worrying about a "new" version every year. Would help limit the number of bugs (I know there will always be bugs, but IOS 16 is still a hot mess (even with it being at 16.5).
This is awful especially when considering that this is the final update for many devices. The only precedent for a major update actually improving things (on devices which debuted with that version) is iOS 12 relative to iOS 11 on A11 iPhones.
Let’s assume that for some magical reason iOS 17 is better on devices that debuted with iOS 16 (the iPhone 14 series and the 6th-gen iPad Pros). Even if this turns out to be true, is it better for the earliest supported devices in terms of performance and battery life? (So, A12 iPhones). And even if this is true, unsupported devices must stay with iOS 16, which is not a great version for devices with less powerful hardware (devices which are amazing, by the way), like A11 iPhones and A9/A9X iPads. Those devices? Just have the disastrous iOS/iPadOS 16 update and stay there.
I disagree. You’re entitled to your opinion, but you’re not entitled to stating your opinion as fact. Just because you don’t think it deserves it’s own version number doesn’t make it so. And if it didn’t change enough to be a separate version, then why are you arguing that having a new version every year creates more bugs? If it’s just the same, then tacking a number on it shouldn’t change that, right? And in this case it did meaningfully change the system. Both iOS 17 and iPadOS 17 do introduce meaningful changes, more than what would be expected or changed in a mid-cycle update. I think we just simply disagree on this, you’re not going to convince me that sticking to the same version of software for two years is somehow better than getting new versions each year. Even if it’s only a psychological thing, a new version number each year feels more fresh and exciting than, “listen up folks, you’re going to get iOS 16 again this year!”.
That definitely helps with the "planned obsolence" crowd. Maybe apple will continue pushing IOS 16 updates to those that don't support IOS 17 like they did with IOS 15? I agree though, there are going to be a lot of disappointed people being stuck on IOS 16 with how buggy it is 6+ updates later.
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So you would rather have a new number just because it seems newer to you instead of true meaningful changes? Got it, the apple kool-aid is strong with you.
Except it could be presented as "these are the new features being brought to the OS," but you are simply hung up on numbers so it won't ever make sense to you.
What's this about iOS 16 being buggy? It… never was to me. 11 and 13 seemed particularly buggy, but 12, 14, 15, 16 just haven't been.
(This is a separate concern from whether Stage Manager was a good design in 16.)
(This is a separate concern from whether Stage Manager was a good design in 16.)
Whatever. You don’t need to be rude about your opinion. 🤷🏼♂️. It has nothing to do with “Apple kool-aid” or not being able to think for myself, it just has everything to do that I have a different opinion than you do. And that’s ok. You can have your opinion, and I’m not brow-beating you over it. Personally, I know lots of people who are running iOS 16, many of whom have older iPhones that barely support it, and they’re not having any issues with performance or bugs. 🤷🏼♂️. Sorry if some people are running into bugs, but I really haven’t encountered any of that, nor do I know anyone who’s encountered any of that either.
I mean, people have been disappointed with final iOS updates from the beginning. iOS 12 on an iPhone 6/6+? Abhorrent. iOS 9 on the 4s? Abhorrent. iOS 7 on the iPhone 4? Abhorrent. iOS 10 on the iPhone 5/5c? Abhorrent... and so on. It’s the same for iPads. It’s always the same, and I have no hope of it ever changing at this point.
The only thing that fixes the issue is upgrading. When it gets too bad? Just buy a new one.
Also, I think that like others have stated, the iOS 11-and-onwards control center isn’t bad. I like it. I prefer the iOS 9-10 design, but I like the current functionality.