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iOS 17 Rumored to Have 'Fewer Major Changes Than Originally Planned' as Apple Shifts Focus to AR/VR Headset
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If you believe the headset is going to replace smartphones, then how do you expect Apple to take the iPhone’s camera module and mount it to a headset?
I agree - I would prefer to see expanded and better features for Maps - get Siri to answer questions instead of links to websites - improve the UX and UI in Focus - Weather App: bring back what we loved about Dark Sky… to name a few
well it was not officially said obviously because apple hasn't said anything. it was posted on here as a rumor so ignore what i said if you want but it's not too crazy to think it could be true. people need to realise that likely this is the beginning of the end for iphone. they won't disappear anytime soon but i think in 5-10 or even 15 years we'll look back at 2023 as the decline.
a lot of people found it hard to believe that the iPod would ever disappear because it was such a huge hit. it'd be stupid to assume iPhone will be around in 15-20 years.
but hey i suppose the headset could be a total failure but i think apple have a good idea what they are doing with it.
There's an article about the upcoming iOS version having less than planned features literally every year.
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A few software changes are fine however iOS needs to be stable and bug-free.
the headset is significantly larger than an iphone and it is rumored to have about 15 camera lenses on it. what makes it so hard to believe that they can put 2-3 photo lenses on it for taking pictures?
It NEEDS a UI design change, new icons, new layout because its stale AF.
Widgets NEED TO BE INTERACTIVE as well.
Widgets NEED TO BE INTERACTIVE as well.
I’m not discarding the potential possibility for some other device to replace iPhone for Apple on day. That needs to be a mass market compatible, correctly priced gadget though whose use case and value exceed that of the smartphone which could be tricky. Time will tell.
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Looks like we will be waiting until iOS 18 for that. So next year!
Im not saying hire arbitrarily.
But I cannot believe that the teams associated with these projects are maxed out in terms of productivity.
If they had to shift focus to AR/VR that would mean the new teams structure are NOT opperatiing at their max capacity. Bringing in more people could fix that.
Do we really believe that Apple currently has the maximum and only people who could work on these projects?
Apple doesnt have any ability to scale out vs shift focus?
Well seeing how buggy IOS 16 still is with all their engineers working on it, can't wait to see how even more buggy IOS 17 is when they split some of their engineers to work on their VR division. Way to go apple, maybe spend some of the billions you are sitting on and hire some more engineers.
You're missing the point.
You made an analogy regarding the iPod and how people thought it hard to believe that it would ever be retired, but the difference with that product was that both the hardware and software were effectively transitioned to a device of similar means. If you owned an iPod, then using an iPhone was a natural experience and the user lost no functionality in the process.
Apple doesn't design products from the feature-down, they design them from the experience-up.
The user experience of a smartphone is almost polar opposite to a headset. A smartphone is a discrete device that can be stored in a pocket on a person's possession, only taken out when it needs to. It is convenient to type on, to enter commands, to digest information in whatever way you choose to.
So ask yourself the most basic questions; what would the experience of taking a call be like on a headset? You can assume one of or two scenarios: the headset is expected to be kept on the head at all times so you can be easily notified; or the headset stays in a 'case' which you have to remove it from. Neither are more convenient or an improvement over the product we have now.
And those are best-case scenarios for just one feature. If the battery life is significantly less than a smartphone, how would it be used throughout a day? How would I enter formulas on an Excel spreadsheet? Or trade the stock market at a seconds notice?
The main takeaway is that technology and experiences do not always go hand in hand.
Was about to say. It’s either Covid, WFH, shifted business focus, whatever.
They may be. There is a limit to the number of resources that can be thrown against projects as demonstrated in the aphorism about the doctors.
I disagree. It's not like any team is a island unto itself.
Or could make things worse.
Yes.
There is a limit to how many resources they can dedicate to a project, until the productivity flattens out, imo.
From 2019, “It's believed that there are now between 20 and 22 people in ID”. That’s just one example. It’s not a matter of hiring arbitrarily in terms of quality (of course they could find very good people), but in terms of quantity. We’ve all read the problems Apple has faced with staff expansion during the pandemic. And I’m sure most of them are elite workers, but it’s not easy to expand a team beyond a certain threshold and maintain a culture and way of working. Heck, most of us who work in big teams, even orders of magnitude lower than Apple, know how expanding can easily screw up things.
This isn’t surprising at all. As mentioned in the article, odd numbered iOS versions are basically the equivalent of “s” years for the software.
Even numbers are the big feature releases, odd numbers are the tweaks / refinements that improve polish, performance, and stability.
Except the same to continue the following year with big changes being introduced in iOS 18.
Even numbers are the big feature releases, odd numbers are the tweaks / refinements that improve polish, performance, and stability.
Except the same to continue the following year with big changes being introduced in iOS 18.
I'm sure Apple likes winning awards for their hardware, but maybe not this one
Shifting focus towards AR/VR headset? Gosh, the dystopia of a censored world can't be more real than ever. Twisted perception of the world. I can't wait to see how horrible Apple AR/VR headset can be at portraying the real world in virtual reality.
As for not having major feature update...nah, we don't need major updates every year. Put it every 2 years, and clean up their houses before moving forward.
As for not having major feature update...nah, we don't need major updates every year. Put it every 2 years, and clean up their houses before moving forward.
That’s crazy how they can’t focus on more than 1-2 things at a time! It seems like a small, not profitable, startup… whereas it’s a multi billion company! They did the same when they introduced the Watch: stopped focusing on macOS. Now they stop focusing on iOS for that reality stuff that will be too expansive for the majority of us…
And that’s not as if iOS - and worse, macOS and iPadOS - have already been lagging behind for years…
And that’s not as if iOS - and worse, macOS and iPadOS - have already been lagging behind for years…
The issue with that is that Apple is apparently not planning on devoting forces to fixing existing bugs, but to other OS’s. That’s the same they have been doing for 8-9 years with macOS: only a few features/changes (generally badly ported from iOS) but that does not mean macOS is less buggy. Actually that’s the opposite…
Given this is a rumor, I’m going to reserve too much judgment on Apple’s vision, but the AR/VR thing for any company at this point is sort of a solution looking for a problem. It’s novel and can be fun for a minute, but day to day it’s not something I see as viable yet, if ever.
The last couple of cycles have been pretty lame on the iOS, iPadOS, and even hardware front in regard to quality and evolution. It’s not sustainable to expect revolution every year, but this past update in particular made me feel like the Apple leadership is getting too smug and cynical to listen to the users. Dynamic island is a good example. Interviews post reveal showed the likes of Joz trying to cast it as a new invention when it was just a tweak that helps them maintain the FaceTime stack and really became their cover for the lack of real innovation in iOS. Again.
I think they are too focused on revenue anymore. I recognize that’s a business priority, but they continue to lose that drive of thinking different as we continue to walk away from the Jobs era and the stagnation is showing. I am betting the the next iPhone cycle will be super lame but they will spend WWDC talking about AR/VR and then spend the back half of the year deprecating everything else. I think they are already struggling with evolving AS and that’s why the Mac Pro is going to fail to shine. So they are panicking and pivoting to AR/VR for new energy, because they have built a fragile house, I just don’t think it is really the golden ticket they think it is.
I obviously could be wrong.
The last couple of cycles have been pretty lame on the iOS, iPadOS, and even hardware front in regard to quality and evolution. It’s not sustainable to expect revolution every year, but this past update in particular made me feel like the Apple leadership is getting too smug and cynical to listen to the users. Dynamic island is a good example. Interviews post reveal showed the likes of Joz trying to cast it as a new invention when it was just a tweak that helps them maintain the FaceTime stack and really became their cover for the lack of real innovation in iOS. Again.
I think they are too focused on revenue anymore. I recognize that’s a business priority, but they continue to lose that drive of thinking different as we continue to walk away from the Jobs era and the stagnation is showing. I am betting the the next iPhone cycle will be super lame but they will spend WWDC talking about AR/VR and then spend the back half of the year deprecating everything else. I think they are already struggling with evolving AS and that’s why the Mac Pro is going to fail to shine. So they are panicking and pivoting to AR/VR for new energy, because they have built a fragile house, I just don’t think it is really the golden ticket they think it is.
I obviously could be wrong.
I work for a multi-billion company and we can't even focus on 1-2 things without ****ing them up entirely.
The thing with Apple is they actually delivered a comprehensive product portfolio already which is far better integrated than anything else on the planet and mostly actually works (compared to Google's and Microsoft's ecosystem). So people should stop bitching and give them some slack.