That doesn’t mean that it’s Apple’s responsibility to enforce the notification.
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iOS 18.1 Beta Includes Call Recording and Transcribing
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Ehh. They should give you a notice saying check your state/country’s laws on consent about it, but that’s it. There’s other ways to record a call anyway. If you’re talking on the phone you should assume as if you’re being recorded.
That's not good. The best call recording is to start or stop recording whenever I want.
It kind of does. If they had this without the notification they would have another lawsuit on their hands. They are already under a fine-toothed comb as it is. Just because you want to record people without their consent doesn't circumvent the law in many locations.
What does your shopping list have anything to do with 2 party consent laws? It is only useless when you want to try and record someone while you are being shady and can't handle the notification letting them know they are being recorded.
Legally it depends on the state/ location but in general there’s not an implicit expectation of privacy during phone calls. Both parties would need to agree on keeping information private and other legal requirements like possibly an NDA. But in general No, phone calls are not private, so don’t say anything that you would like to keep confidential.
The point of call recording is not to ensnare people. It is a recording for reference after a call because a lot of things can be said.
Phone calls can be better if people know it is being recorded.
Either they are responsible or they are not. I was suggesting that they are not, and in that case they shouldn’t fear a lawsuit.
I've been using voice dictation for years now. In fact, I probably talk more to my iPhone now than I do text e.g. notes, emails, messages. To me, voice transcription has been possible for a long time now and long before the advent of Apple Intelligence. Just surprised they took so long to bring it to the phone app.
I'm guessing AI will improve things further still (e.g. I use MacWhisper to transcribe my Podcasts these days and it's pretty darn good).
It is somewhat useless IF you are not able to turn off notification. The feature is already circumspect by its very nature. Why would anyone want to record a phone conversation if NOT to serve as evidence to support claims? Memory aid? Aw, come on.
This feature has been on Android for ages.
This feature has been on Android for ages.
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I'd like to have that message played before my phone rings and I answer it.
you know that "Designed in California" is on every apple product, right?
In California it is illegal to record any phone conversation without consent ...
In the US you can sue McDonalds if you spill hot coffee on your pants - and you will win.
So apple is not only smart in this case, they are also doing the right thing.
Actually that is technically false. There is a reason expectation of privacy when it comes to phone calls.
In states where there are two party consent laws, both have to consent.
In states with one party consent only the one recording needs to consent.
This is also why companies tell you that you’re being recorded before you talk to an agent.
Or else you run into the illegality of wire tapping
Some people especially women victim of repeated abuse and/or harassment they should not to announce the call is recorded to use it as proof later in a court of justice (if admissible). The fact the iPhone automatically announces that the call is recorded defeats the propose in this particular scenario.
p.s. in Canada it is legal to record a call or private conversation without prior notification.
Exactly why I'm in favor of giving users the option. There are numerous cases where it would be helpful. I'm not sure if provinces have different consent laws from Canada as a whole, since the US is single-party federally, with some states being more strict.
I had this on my Windows Mobile Nokia phone in 2015. No consent required.
To me it should be up the the person doing the recording, not Apple or Google or….
Record in a 2 party consent state at your peril.
Wow, I remember having this on my jailbroken iPhone 4, or was it 3Gs? So it took about a decade for Apple to implement it with their totally magical ”AI” 🧙🏼♂️
That’s true, but Apple is often cautious about the potential misuse of their features. While it’s not their responsibility to enforce notifications, they have little to lose by doing so and could potentially face negative publicity or even legal challenges if they don’t. From a corporate perspective, it’s a no brainer.
Perhaps if the abuser knows the call can be recorded and transcribed the abuser won't call. Recording calls can make people behave better.
Best case scenario in court, both parties know the call is recorded.
