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Can't believe the number of commenters here who are triggered by this. It's pretty sad.

Meanwhile, people are generally positive about the ability change the default apps.


If people are going to set default apps to something that's not from Apple, then why shouldn't users also be able to remove those unused Apple apps?
 
Even if you'd remove Safari and install another browser you'd still be using Safari since I don't believe any other browser is using their own browser engine
 
Even if you'd remove Safari and install another browser you'd still be using Safari since I don't believe any other browser is using their own browser engine
I don’t think that’s technically true anymore. I thought the EU forced Apple to allow browser engines.
 
What's the purpose of buying an Apple product if you delete all the core apps? All this satisfies is the teeny-tiny minority of techie wannabes who just want to pound their chests.
Let them delete iOS and they will install nasty Android instead.
You may be being sarcastic but that’s definitely not out of the realm of possibilities where ignorant bureaucrats are concerned. There’s a definite push for homogeneity by the EU so mandating a standardized mobile OS is likely on the list of things to regulate.
 
Sometimes, the ability to use an alternative app makes sense. If you do not want the stock-app, you get some memory and control back, as the stock one is not called anywhere anymore.

...but in case of the camera app, I see no advantage on deleting this app. It provides you some "built in" funcions, you will probably not find on an external app. Furthermore you might become stuck on Version X.Y, if it is not updated anymore. The system camera-app evolves with iOS. (...I hope ;))
 
Less is more. Well, can be (at least).

From a security perspective, I can see the attraction of removing e.g. messages (significant attack vector)... and high security managed devices may not want Camera (photography is banned in some environments) or access to the App store.

So, yes. Why not ? Could create a specialised device build for exclusive work use.

You don't have to uninstall stuff...its just an option.

In extremis, maybe, I could build an iPod. Dedicated to music playback but with no distractions.
 
If Android does the same their phones might be actually useable, the amount of useless bloatware most of them ship is crazy. My OCD is going nuts if I see all these apps lol.

As for iOS, it's silly what EU is doing, on the other hand, why should one not be able to delete these apps?
Not that I ever would consider it, but hey, I am certainly happy for all people that always wished to do just that.
 
Can't believe the number of commenters here who are triggered by this. It's pretty sad.

Meanwhile, people are generally positive about the ability change the default apps.


If people are going to set default apps to something that's not from Apple, then why shouldn't users also be able to remove those unused Apple apps?
It's fine, but it comes at a cost. Coding and engineering time spent creating this ability means that bug fixes or other features might be ignored.
 
Multinational corporations can’t run amock to do as they please, as their interests must be subjugated under the interests of society and not the other way around.

And Apple is “running amok” by, checks notes, including default apps with a device it created?

The EUs continued ridiculousness on this (and other issues related to the iPhone) would be hilarious if it weren’t actual affecting the rest of us.

How about devoting their time to ACTUAL problems from multinational companies like privacy abuse by Google and Meta.
 
The EU is really taking all the fun out of the iPhone experience. No Apple Intelligence kinda makes me lose interest in the iPhone...
It's not as if we have Apple Intelligence right now. It's going to be a slow and staggered roll out

 
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I don’t think that’s technically true anymore. I thought the EU forced Apple to allow browser engines.
Yes, but it's only possible in the EU, and BrowserEngineKit is making porting an existing browser engine using JIT compilation (effectively mandatory nowadays for JavaScript) very much nontrivial, so it's unclear if anybody is bothering yet.
 
What's the purpose of buying an Apple product if you delete all the core apps? All this satisfies is the teeny-tiny minority of techie wannabes who just want to pound their chests.

You may be being sarcastic but that’s definitely not out of the realm of possibilities where ignorant bureaucrats are concerned. There’s a definite push for homogeneity by the EU so mandating a standardized mobile OS is likely on the list of things to regulate.
“homogeneity” I think misses the point of principle for what drives EU legislation. equality of opportunity, equality of access to markets, reducing reliance on monopolistic services, levelling of opportunity entities outside the US to compete in software/digital markets are part of the motivation; but probably most of all what drives this is steering tax revenues back the communities who earn and then spend increasing amounts of income on digital products but who continue to expect their political leadership to provide and maintain roads, schools, health care systems etc, but struggle when entities like Apple, MS, Google, Meta, et al become mega corporations that avoid tax payments in spend nations?
 
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