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Between this and the news that Siri will remain crippled for at least another year, I am pretty pumped for iOS 18.

I know it’s not fair to expect groundbreaking features every year, but Apple committed themselves to this annual release cycle, so they can own that.
 
I would like the settings app to not immediately show me my family sharing group the first moment you open it. It should be in a submenu
 
Oh great. Another effort to muddle up System Settings.
And it sounds like it's part of the general dumbing down of the OS. Rather than make iPhone / iPad OS more worthy of M-series processors, let's make MacOS act / look like the weaker product.
 
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The search in the iOS Settings app is not very good. It's often easier (or even only possible) to get to things by tapping through manually. And some settings are similarly named with little context so it can be tricky to know what you're actually selecting.
If i can't find a specific setting on my iPhone, i actually ask Google where this setting is buried...

...that tells the designers, how good they worked. 🤮
 
The biggest thing I don't like about Sonoma settings is searching doesn't give you enough visual context for where the thing is so you end up having to search again next time and every time
 
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I agree, except the search is still hit and miss. If they fixed that, the existing settings app is fine.
I find any Apple provided search capability as poor. It doesn’t help when app providers give cute names to their apps. My health insurance company uses Sydney as their app name.
 
I agree, except the search is still hit and miss. If they fixed that, the existing settings app is fine.
No, it's NOT fine.

And search is NOT a fix for that. If things were in logical places, you would never need to search for them.

Display sleep should NOT be under Lock Screen, and that's just one bit of stupidity out of many.
 
Arrange alphabetically rather than by category was my preferred option forever until the new sysprefs design. I don't care much about how each panel looks but when the menu is arranged alphabetically my eyes go straight to what I need to find.
 
Being a newbie to MacOs, okay it has been a year now more or less, but still newish. Anyway, being a newbie to MacOs, I find the settings okay in most part. There are a couple of things that are a bit strange, Wi-fi being outside of network is one, not that it bothers me as I don't use Wi-Fi, and now and again while looking for something I find it clumped into general. Coming from windows where it is split between settings and the old control panel, I find MacOs settings fantastic. I can understand where long tern Mac users are coming from, I know a couple and one of them refuses to update from one of the older MacOs on her trashcan Mac pro as she hates the phone style UI. It was called OS X then. Not that she will have much choice soon as she is getting a new Mac soon.

Settings are one of those things, that most people only dive into now and again, once the machine is set up, then there is very little reason to dive into settings unless you want to change the personalisation
 
Im growing tired of Apple changing things for change‘s sake. Good things that work should be kept.
That was and still the problem with Windows, they added so much on that a lot of people did not want and then made it that you could uninstall it. The problem with Windows, well there are a lot of problems with Windows, but one of them is that it still have a lot of the old windows in it, some going back to Window 9x and before.

I could be wrong, but at least it looks like MacOS is not split between old and new.
It does get confusing if looking online on how to do something on the mac and the search engine comes up with system preferences. :)
 
The small settings window that you cannot resize, with a scrolling sidebar and a main panel - where neither can show all the sections or functions, was a major step backwards. Add the moving and hiding of some funtions to seemingly arbitrary sections and less logical places, and now you're stuck using search.

Older versions of MacOS with colors, a more regular font, etc were just more straightforward. But, no, skeumorphism ... everything must be a small grey shape and a narrower grey font on a grey background ... sigh.
 
Look at the upside though – Microsoft has been migrating Control Panel to settings for almost a decade now and they’re still not done. Apple will have changed their settings UI twice 😂
 
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i hope they move settings for downloaded apps to the top and it’s ordered by the last time an app was updated and it’s completely tab based so any time you tap on a section that section opens in a new tab and you have to manually close the tabs or your phone starts getting slow and even if you restart the tabs stay open
 
Apple has traditionally been bad with software, with the exception of a stable OS which of course has improved over decades. I will worry with Apple's attempts to bake AI into their software. One of the early starters with Siri, it is pathetic where they stand with AI. They could have done magic with Siri by deeply integrating into OS, providing ability to control all of the device functions. But it was so shallow that I have turned it off for years and never missed it. This goes to show lack of good leadership and lack of vision in this area at Apple.
 
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The only way I can find anything in the macOS Settings app is to use the search function. Otherwise, I'm pretty lost.
 
I don't know if it's just me or if someone else notices this too. Category "General" is really a subjective term and can easily be confusing when looking for a certain setting either inside or outside the category General. Here is my thought: Control Center is already a category "General".
 
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I don't know if it's just me or if someone else notices this too. Category "General" is really a subjective term and can easily be confusing when looking for a certain setting either inside or outside the category General. Here is my thought: Control Center is already a category "General".
It is a large category and could mean anything, but once you are used to it then it is nto a big problem, well certainly for me as apart from the odd play around on Macs, I never really used one to any great extent before I got mine.
 
It is a large category and could mean anything, but once you are used to it then it is nto a big problem, well certainly for me as apart from the odd play around on Macs, I never really used one to any great extent before I got mine.
It's also not a big problem for me too. I just wonder why they don't categorize items in the Settings.app without using "General," because I've given up trying to remember what is inside or outside of it and just use search very long time ago. It seems like there is no point in having the category "General" at all.

Regarding the latter part of your response, I have no idea what you mean by "odd play around" and "mine."
 
It's also not a big problem for me too. I just wonder why they don't categorize items in the Settings.app without using "General," because I've given up trying to remember what is inside or outside of it and just use search very long time ago. It seems like there is no point in having the category "General" at all.

Regarding the latter part of your response, I have no idea what you mean by "odd play around" and "mine."
What I meant was that I only used Macs now and again before I got my Mac, so any changes before I got my Mac mini last year I did not know about.
 
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