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Keychain secret notes are not transferred into Password? Or are they just hidden even more secretly?
 
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I use Image Capture, which isn't perfect, but supports a broad range of scanners out of the box, and gets the job done. the app is slightly neglected, such as not remembering the window size between app launches, but I still prefer it over 3rd-party scanner apps.

I use Image Capture too but for Mac. I was referring iOS (sorry for not being specific).

iPhone needs a good scanner app. You can use Notes but it is very limited. Scannable was the best. Then they required an account. Then to be online. Now subscription. And the files are bigger without noticeable quality improvement in B&W scans. En********ation.
 
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The apple passwords app needs before I rely on it:

-the ability to store credit cards / passports
-the ability to add images/screenshots / pdf's of wills, legal documents, etc


Before people say notes, I've had corrupt notes before with things that get deleted or due to large images taking up space in the note

For files I use encrypted DMGs. It’s like a folder but encrypted. It works only in Macs but you can copy to an external HD, Dropbox for backup. Even if you get hacked and the FileVault password is compromised, the encrypted DMG will hold.
 
I use Image Capture too but for Mac. I was referring iOS (sorry for not being specific).

iPhone needs a good scanner app. You can use Notes but it is very limited. Scannable was the best. Then they required an account. Then to be online. Now subscription. And the files are bigger without noticeable quality improvement in B&W scans. En********ation.
Maybe try QuickScan. No ads, no ********, even paperless-ngx support.
 
I'm in the same boat, would also love some ideas. Closest I can think of is some of the free alternatives like Bitwarden or whatever it's called. Could use those for that data since syncing between your devices isn't _as_ important for that data, so if it's slightly more hassle to sync, it's not a big deal.
Bitwarden is by far the best choice. I'm using Bitwarden since 3+ years as I needed a really secure (open source) and cross-platform password manager, it's a really good app, it works just fine, I will keep it for a few more years until Passwords reaches this level of convenience.
 
Anyone else ditching 1Password but need a plan for where to move the things that the new Password app doesn't support? (Passport, image files, software licenses, notes etc)?

Looking for ideas

Use something KeePass based. Then use any cloud service including your own private computers to sync it. There are tons of clients. I like Strongbox. I hear KeepassXC is good.

Standard format, omni-platform, highly flexible, free or relatively cheap depending on what you want and how easy you want it to be.
+1 for Strongbox. I went from 1Password to Bitwarden years ago, then a few months ago to Strongbox.

I was annoyed with both the Bitwarden UI and this issue regarding the web extension that has been left unaddressed for six years. Strongbox has been satisfyingly reliable and frequently updated.
 
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Thought about using it then saw that once again Apple is forcing Windows users to deal with iTunes software. So yeah…no thanks lol and I’m not having one password manager for my iDevices and one for my PC.

I’ll just stick with Bitwarden.
 
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It does not. If you change a password and the form returns a 2XX HTTP code but for whatever reason fails to save on their backend, the Passwords app will only remember the new (useless) password and then it will sync it to every other device.

As a result, I can't switch to the Passwords app because I have too many accounts with (1) shoddy change password forms that can't be trusted to return the right HTTP status when a request fails and (2) can't be reset easily with an e-mail address alone (require a phone number I no longer control, etc)
Wow, thanks. This is the deal breaker. I will continue to use 1Password.
 
Lemme guess: "The sparkling and shimmering effect on the icon need full Apple Intelligence and Neural Engines, so unfortunately it can't be released in Europe".
Shrugs. I don’t have the news app here in Singapore either.
 
If a password (e.g. home wifi login) is shared with a trusted contact, will the receiving person be able to actually view the password, or will it remain hidden with only the device able to login? Also, in the latter case, will the person be able to further share the password with more of their devices or third contacts?
 
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Correct, all your passwords are then unlocked with a device passcode. No option for a custom passcode like in the Notes app. In other words, your Notes are better protected than your Passwords. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

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Where are you storing all your notes passwords? The idea of any password app is you only need to remember one password.
 
It does not. If you change a password and the form returns a 2XX HTTP code but for whatever reason fails to save on their backend, the Passwords app will only remember the new (useless) password and then it will sync it to every other device.

As a result, I can't switch to the Passwords app because I have too many accounts with (1) shoddy change password forms that can't be trusted to return the right HTTP status when a request fails and (2) can't be reset easily with an e-mail address alone (require a phone number I no longer control, etc)

Don’t really switch strong passwords often enough with crappy enough sites for this to be an actual issue? Copy the old password to clipboard before switching maybe?

Did try Sign In With Apple but so few sites offered it I reverted to em+pw+2fa authentication.

Why not use passkey when possible and something else when not?

1 do passkeys give away PII? Like name, applied or email etc?

No, or rather, same as any other login method.

2 if you start using a passkey what happens to the old keychain card with the un/em+pw etc info? Are these available in parallel? (I’ve got lots of notes in each card and I’m afraid of it being deleted).

I don’t think it’s affected.

does the Apple Passwords app allow you to then unlock it with just your 4 or 6 digit phone PIN?

If you feel it’s “just” a 4 or 6 digit code (which isn’t a pin but whatever), why not use a stronger one? It protects your entire device after all.
 
looks decent - does it support custom fields however and ideally picture attachments?
Seems to be the last bit missing to ditch 1Password
 
All your eggs in one basket?! Seems like a bad idea to me; if your phone or Apple account gets compromised, then your entire life is compromised.

I'll keep my passwords separate from Apple or Google, thanks. I don't even keep my Apple or Google passwords stored in my password manager, or anywhere else. Everything else, I do.
 
I loathe the new passwords integration.

It's not that it's bad necessarily, however I also daily drive Linux and therefore this password manager is not suited to my needs.

But whenever I try to get rid of it in apps like Safari to use the password managers I've used for years, everything breaks. Turning it off removes all password managers completely, and turning it on will make only the Passwords app show up on login fields, even though apps like Keepassium used to work fine.

Apple's complete disregard for 3rd party solutions can be infuriating. It's so infuriating in fact that I am considering no longer using Safari and switching to Waterfox out of sheer frustration with Apple, with Mozilla, and most famously with Google. ARGH!!
 
I had been using Enpass since I got in on their lifetime Pro subscription, and they actually seemed to be honoring it. The other day, however, it looks like they have now began putting features behind a greedy subscription paywall. I'm going to be switching to Apple's solution just as soon as they have a way to import my passwords over.
 
Anyone else ditching 1Password but need a plan for where to move the things that the new Password app doesn't support? (Passport, image files, software licenses, notes etc)?

Looking for ideas
I personally and a lot of other people who truly treasure privacy use Bitwarden. The Premium version costs a reasonable 10 bucks a year. family plans up to 6 users costs like 40 bucks a year. You can use the free version and get by forever on that and be happy. Bitwarden believe in that every tech user should have a secure vault hence their free plan which is probably the most featured out of any out there but for 10 bucks a year you really cant begrudge supporting them.

Using Bitwarden allows for truly cross device synchronisation if you use many different OS's etc. It integrates well into the Apple ecosystem and its open sourced and vetted and thus well respected amongst the community. Ive had it years and most importantly its probably the only bit of tech that I trust with my data. I never use Apples password system or Googles. Likelihood is they can easily hand over such information without warrant to their three letter friends and co.

Once you get into the swing of Bitwarden it becomes invaluable and has all the new features such as Face ID unlocks, Passkeys, username generations etc. You can store credit cards, passports and other secure documents should you wish. A little change on you iOS device is all that is needed to point towards Bitwarden to set up new logins etc instead of it defaulting to Apples passowords. They have an easy to understand website with pricing, You wont be disappointed. You can also import you iPassword Vault into Bitwarden to get ya started. my only advice is be very thorough in your set up and recovery methods for Bitwarden. If you lose access to your master password then say goodbye to the vault. Its designed that way so....

Unfortunately we live in a world now where no one should be trusting the guys that make your device with also managing your passwords what with the the rapid uptake of AI. Bitwarden is one of few companies that are the last great bastions of users private data. Highly recommended.
 
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