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Once the import tool is created will it allow importing of “non-password” secure items from a vault. For example, Software keys/licenses, etc.
 
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I personally and a lot of other people who truly treasure privacy use Bitwarden. The Premium version costs a reasonable 10 bucks a year. family plans up to 6 users costs like 40 bucks a year. You can use the free version and get by forever on that and be happy. Bitwarden believe in that every tech user should have a secure vault hence their free plan which is probably the most featured out of any out there but for 10 bucks a year you really cant begrudge supporting them.

Using Bitwarden allows for truly cross device synchronisation if you use many different OS's etc. It integrates well into the Apple ecosystem and its open sourced and vetted and thus well respected amongst the community. Ive had it years and most importantly its probably the only bit of tech that I trust with my data. I never use Apples password system or Googles. Likelihood is they can easily hand over such information without warrant to their three letter friends and co.

Once you get into the swing of Bitwarden it becomes invaluable and has all the new features such as Face ID unlocks, Passkeys, username generations etc. You can store credit cards, passports and other secure documents should you wish. A little change on you iOS device is all that is needed to point towards Bitwarden to set up new logins etc instead of it defaulting to Apples passowords. They have an easy to understand website with pricing, You wont be disappointed. You can also import you iPassword Vault into Bitwarden to get ya started. my only advice is be very thorough in your set up and recovery methods for Bitwarden. If you lose access to your master password then say goodbye to the vault. Its designed that way so....

Unfortunately we live in a world now where no one should be trusting the guys that make your device with also managing your passwords what with the the rapid uptake of AI. Bitwarden is one of few companies that are the last great bastions of users private data. Highly recommended.
Does BitWarden allow for local vaults?
One feature I greatly miss from 1Password is ther ability to have a local vault and have devices sync without the need of internet traffic. The feature was sadly lost when they went subscription.
 
Its okay. I don't really get the need to keep the app out of settings, as the time I need in to Passwords, I click the link in the app/browser to get to passwords anyway.

Third parties have the more complete solutions.
 
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It’s nice but will stick with Bitwarden.The main reason is that BW allows me to generate a user name and password BEFORE signing up to a site. BW will make random user names & connects with anonymous email providers to generate email addresses for those sites that require a email address as a user name.
 
It does not. If you change a password and the form returns a 2XX HTTP code but for whatever reason fails to save on their backend, the Passwords app will only remember the new (useless) password and then it will sync it to every other device.

As a result, I can't switch to the Passwords app because I have too many accounts with (1) shoddy change password forms that can't be trusted to return the right HTTP status when a request fails and (2) can't be reset easily with an e-mail address alone (require a phone number I no longer control, etc)

That's a very good point. A "real" password manager needs password history.
 
I’ve not yet embraced passkeys.

Did try Sign In With Apple but so few sites offered it I reverted to em+pw+2fa authentication.

I have 2 questions:
1 do passkeys give away PII? Like name, applied or email etc?
2 if you start using a passkey what happens to the old keychain card with the un/em+pw etc info? Are these available in parallel? (I’ve got lots of notes in each card and I’m afraid of it being deleted).

1. No, none at all. This is one of their main advantages. The Passkey is the private key which your device stores. The other side only has the public key. So unless you give a service more, all they need is a user identifier and the passkey. No PII necessary, especially if you use a one-time or single purpose email address.

2. Most services use them in parallel. Your old authentication method does not go away. To really secure the account, some services do allow you to remove the username and password once you've set up a passkey.

For maximum security, you would want to remove the username/password option.

But I don't trust device based passkeys. I use Strongbox to store them. That way they're in my keepass database with everything else. Theoretically it's probably fine if you can keep your backup chain going when you get new devices.
 
I personally and a lot of other people who truly treasure privacy use Bitwarden. The Premium version costs a reasonable 10 bucks a year. family plans up to 6 users costs like 40 bucks a year.

I thought about Bitwarden, but the subscription price is what makes me leery. Back in the day I was using LastPass "reasonable priced" $15 subscription, until they got bought by some scumbag company and suddenly the prices skyrocketed. Same thing could happen to Bitwarden whenever Bain capital or some other worthless private equity vulture offers them a pile of cash to kill the app.
 
It looks to me like new passwords “notes” field can hold ALPHA NUMERICAL TEXT passport, recovery codes, etc. may not exactly autofill but that’s ok. For me, if there IS no adequate “notes” service, I would stick to my pay password service.
 
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The apple passwords app needs before I rely on it:

-the ability to store credit cards / passports
-the ability to add images/screenshots / pdf's of wills, legal documents, etc


Before people say notes, I've had corrupt notes before with things that get deleted or due to large images taking up space in the note
Images is a bridge too far as far as I am concerned.
 
I use Image Capture, which isn't perfect, but supports a broad range of scanners out of the box, and gets the job done. the app is slightly neglected, such as not remembering the window size between app launches, but I still prefer it over 3rd-party scanner apps.
Me too. Use it often. MB Air and Mac Mini. It’s a competent tool.
 
I thought there was indications they were providing a migration tool from other services to Apple Passwords.

Maybe a password migration tool for iOS/iPadOS. One can already import passwords from other services as a CSV file on a Mac. I haven't seen any indication that Apple will be providing functionality for storing any other kinds of items in Apple Passwords.
 
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Anyone else ditching 1Password but need a plan for where to move the things that the new Password app doesn't support? (Passport, image files, software licenses, notes etc)?

Looking for ideas
I'm in this boat as well. I'm a bit underwhelmed with Apple Passwords app but it'll have to do and I refuse to pay for embedded software.

I have been working on deleting accounts and passwords I no longer need, and any that can be linked to a connected account (Apple/Google), I've been connecting so I can delete that password.

In terms of image files, software licenses, I've been using my Day One Journal App. I have the grandfathered premium account so I am allowed 10 journals without a subscription. I just put images in a journal, important document scans in another, and software keys in another journal.

I'm hoping Apple Passwords improves overtime but as of right now im pretty hesitant.
 
It does not. If you change a password and the form returns a 2XX HTTP code but for whatever reason fails to save on their backend, the Passwords app will only remember the new (useless) password and then it will sync it to every other device.

As a result, I can't switch to the Passwords app because I have too many accounts with (1) shoddy change password forms that can't be trusted to return the right HTTP status when a request fails and (2) can't be reset easily with an e-mail address alone (require a phone number I no longer control, etc)

Thanks. That seems like a big oversight. I like with 1Password I can get to previous password for situations like this.

I moved from 1Password when they decided to screw their loyal paid users with that subscription garbage.

My choice was KeePassXC. Open source app with database that’s interoperable. UI lacks in comparison but gets the job done.
For iOS, KeePassium. It’s also free and get the job done.

Apple Passwords is pretty good but I miss some features like adding more fields (for annoying security questions like “what’s your favorite ice cream”). You can add to notes when editing the password but it’s not as useful as copying/pasting the field on iOS.


For the guy asking for alternatives when saving pictures and such, I moved to Notes. When you have Advanced Data Protection, it’s E2EE.



What Apple needs to do is develop a good scanner app. They all turned to crap. Be it subscription, needing data (create an account) or worse, uploading the content to someone else’s computer (The Cloud). I’m looking at you Scannable!
A maybe somewhat obvious workaround for these is to just manually record the info in the notes field (eg. copy paste previous passwords). Definitely not as convenient as being built-in, especially if you have to do it frequently, but it’s functional if you do want to keep it first party. And hopefully these get added eventually.
 
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Really need an in-depth comparison between Apple Passwords and 1Password.
Apple Passwords is just a password manager, 1Password and others have added useful options but then should not be considered "password manager" per se. If Apple added other options then people would argue that they're breaking competition, or that they copied 1P, etc.
 
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Anyone else ditching 1Password but need a plan for where to move the things that the new Password app doesn't support? (Passport, image files, software licenses, notes etc)?

Looking for ideas
I ditch 1Password about 10yrs for Bitwarden same things and security as 1P but a lot cheaper.

I like the Passwords tool, it’s much better than other external tools but I’m keeping Bitwarden because in all the years I have used it, they have never been breached. They also have offered a self hosted solution for years… it’s pretty great.
 
The apple passwords app needs before I rely on it:

-the ability to store credit cards / passports
-the ability to add images/screenshots / pdf's of wills, legal documents, etc


Before people say notes, I've had corrupt notes before with things that get deleted or due to large images taking up space in the note
It’s called Passwords for a reason, not Passwords and things.app
 
Can someone check, as this has maybe gone back and forth in betas: If you let Face/TouchID fail twice, does the Apple Passwords app allow you to then unlock it with just your 4 or 6 digit phone PIN?

Also, can you share a login/pw entry to more than one shared group in the A Passwords app?
 

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Does BitWarden allow for local vaults?
One feature I greatly miss from 1Password is ther ability to have a local vault and have devices sync without the need of internet traffic. The feature was sadly lost when they went subscription.
No not unless you host your own data.

I use Bitwarden and also Enpass. Enpass do have local vault and use wifi sync between device. So my Mac is main host Enpass app and if I update any I can use wifi sync to my iPad and my iPhone. Obviously it doesn’t happen automatically and need do it manually.
 
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