Agreed. I initially knee jerked into thinking its a big fat mess, but once I got over the 'I hate any changes' phase and actually configured it properly, I found it to be a big improvement over the previous. I'm not saying that there aren't any areas it can be improved upon, but generally speaking I'm finding that I'm sifting through a lot of old photo's / memories in a much more structured way than I used to. I won't sit on my high horse to say everyone should like it like I do, its horses for courses. It works for me, so I like it, obviously it doesn't work for a lot of other people and they aren't wrong either.I can’t be the only one who thinks this is the best thing that’s happened to the app. You can literally set the entire bottom half to be whatever you want. You can choose what’s hidden and what’s not, and in what order everything is in. So much more visually pleasing too.
Inconsistency has been their motto for years.Me and my wife both hate it.
In the entire system the swipe from the left edge to the center of the screen results in the navigation to previous screen.
It works the same way in new Photos app in individual albums created by user. BUT, in Photo Library, which is the main area of the Photos app, the same swipe will lead to switching the view from "All" to "Months" which is VERY frustrating. It is so inconsistent and it is so inconvenient, and it drives crazy every person I asked about it. Navigation happens far more often than changing the view to Month/Year. And in the entire system you cannot find a place where navigation to previous screen happens by tapping on floating "X" button. It is either Back button on top area of the screen or the gesture.
Craig is wrong here. I have items in my Camera Roll that are over a year old, because that's how I use it. Photos that I want in my permanent files get imported to my iMac, then sent back to the iPhone, so they get removed from my Camera Roll.I got used to it after removing unnecessary items like memories. That doesn’t mean I like it. I wish we had no photo grid and a separate section for pics taken exclusively on my phone, like what the camera roll was. Video scrubbing is bad.
I did email Craig Federighi about the lack of camera roll and he said that’s what recent days can be used for, but it’s me still not great. I’m not switching platforms because of the photos app.
Glad I'm not the only one getting daily Apple notifications about the iOS 18 update even with auto updates turned off...No 💩.
That is one of the reason I am not getting iOS 18 despite the daily nudging from Apple. This had already happened 3 days in a row!
Absolutely hated the photos app on my work phone.
I’ve been following this journey since iOS 3. I’ve had years of slowly getting new features and playing around and getting used to them.I'm feeling that too. I was planning on having an iPhone and Apple Watch when I'm even older, but am concerned that I will not be willing or able to do the homework to keep up. What are our older relatives who don't read tech sites doing?
Tabs need to be brought back, and that entire bottom half should be in its own Albums tab, separate from the camera roll. That would solve so many of the "difficult to use" issues.I can’t be the only one who thinks this is the best thing that’s happened to the app. You can literally set the entire bottom half to be whatever you want. You can choose what’s hidden and what’s not, and in what order everything is in. So much more visually pleasing too.
I cannot believe after all these years, we STILL can’t have split screen with two app stacked vertically, which makes WAY more sense in portrait mode.Apple should have predicted that any changes to the Photos app would run great risk given how inherently personal the photos within the app are to users.
My wife and I still comment on how much we hate the existing experience, even though I have customized it down to remove the enhancements.
Just like Apple has needed time to nail down multitasking on the iPad (and haven’t nailed it yet!), there is much work to be done on the Photos app. I hope they course correct in 18.3..
The people who mainly use the camera would argue that they could do without the phone partDidn’t even notice
Not sure I’ve even opened it
an iPhone without a camera would be great
I long for the day Apple says “iOS __ with ZERO new features.” Like they did with Snow Leopard. It was all about improvements under the hood. Oh how I miss that mindset.I chalk this redesign to the pressure on Apple's software teams to have something new each year. There are some tweaks I could see would be helpful to the Photos app, but this feels like change for change's sake. You cannot open this app and easily use it, which was always the key to Apple's success.
They still can't get shuffle to work properly in the Music app (for me it will shuffle in the exact same order no matter what I try), but they redesigned the Photos app into something that requires customizing to get it working in a way you like.
Many people often tell me in comments in response “but you do have a choice! Switch to Android!”. I definitely will, especially after such awful overhaul of one of the key apps that I am using.
Apple has no right to implement such overhauls without at least doing some focus group studies. The interface of photos app is ultra cluttered and impossible to get used to. Grid is too large, no focus points so you gotta search with your eyes what you want, lack of manual organization. I think in the next few years new apps for viewing photos will emerge.
They were saying AI will be optional, but photos app is not optional and AI features cannot be turned off at all
The much-needed search function is still at the opposite end of the phone to my thumbs though. The rest I can live with.
Geninuely curious why you haven’t done the last couple of security updates for 17My simple response to that discussion:
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Whilst this is an option, the spare hand might also be holding shopping/a small child/public transport/a burritoI agree that it should at least be customizable to be placed the bottom, because many of us use our phones one handed with a thumb. But every product demo Apple has the user holding the phone with one hand and using their index finger with the other hand palm pilot style.
Craig is wrong here. I have items in my Camera Roll that are over a year old, because that's how I use it. Photos that I want in my permanent files get imported to my iMac, then sent back to the iPhone, so they get removed from my Camera Roll.
The Camera Roll still kinda exists. If you go into the Photo app and tap the image in the lower-left corner, you can see your Camera Roll items, but only one-by-one, you can't see thumbnails. And in Facebook, you can select Camera Roll and see all those items.
I wish some programmer could make a Camera Roll app that allows us complainers to view and delete items from the Camera Roll.
The Photos grid mixes Camera Roll and Library photos. I can't easily find a 3 month old item in my Camera Roll. Unless I'm missing something that you are explaining.You can do that now. Just reconfigure the Photos app so that it *only* shows your photos grid (ie camera roll). You can scroll viewing your photos and deleting any that you don't like. Easy.
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The Photos grid mixes Camera Roll and Library photos. I can't easily find a 3 month old item in my Camera Roll. Unless I'm missing something that you are explaining.