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You won't if RCS is automatically switched on, because how would old folk know the difference, let alone what to do about it? (not necessarily you, but old folk in general who are not very tech savvy)
You be surprised how many old folk are tech-savvy these days, I am 59, so not ancient, but still getting there. We have handsets at work for the customers to use to shop and when we had them I did not think it would catch on, lots of older people around here and to my surprise they did. I don't use them myself, prefer to go around with a basket/trolley and go to a normal checkout. But i was surprised at how many older people use them.

Also, you have to remember, we have used tech from the youngest age, my first computer was when I was when I was around 16 years old, sure it was onjly a ZX81, but it was a computer, we had VCRs that we had to programme the timers, something my parents never had when they were younger. Even people in their 70's/80's now, most will still have had tech of some sort.
My parents would have had a radio in their younger age.

I know of a few people at my age or older that have disabled RCS on their Android phone. I don't need to disable it as i use a different text app don't support RCS.

The one problem with RCS is that it use data connection, and some of us don't go for big data packages, I have 4GB on my sim only contract, It is cheap, a fiver a month, unlimited text and unlimited voice. I can connect to Wi-fi in the house and at work, so I don't need a hige data package. But if I started to use RCS and allow people to send all sort of rubbish to me like useless videos and that sort of thing, it would start eating though my data.
I know people who have even less data or PAYG. This is why the people I said aboout above have disabled RCS. or one of the reasons.

SMS is fine for what I need it for, I am not sending messages of great importance, if I do then I will send it via email, encrypted. The other thing is I don't like google messages, i prefer textra.
 
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Oh dear God. Please go visit an Android-focused forum and tell me those people don't define themselves by how much they hate Apple.
That is true, I have noticed that. I don't hate Apple, I am using a Mac mini M2 pro, but I am not fond of IOS and also Iphones are far too expensive.
 
As far as colors…

I suspect RCS is green and not some other color because to Apple green simply denotes carrier messaging no matter the protocol. And blue is simply to distinguish when you’re not using carrier service but instead using Apple’s built-in iMessage service.

That’s also why the iPhone Messages app icon is green, because it is a carrier messaging app, with iMessage built in—it’s not an iMessages app with carrier messaging built in.

I don’t think Apple wants to add more colors unnecessarily, but maybe if RCS really takes off and there is a loud cry to have a better visual distinction between RCS and SMS/MMS, then Apple might be pressured into using a different chat bubble color. But do Android phones even use different colors for SMS and RCS? I kind of doubt Apple would if most Android phones don’t.

edit- I’ve been told at least some Android phones do distinguish RCS and SMS by color.
Why are Iphone users so bothered about colours? I remember when text was just that, text on a screen with a name before it if you were lucky.
 
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does cell plans in European countries charge for RCS messages like SMS+MMS?
RCS will not be charged as such as it uses data, so it will be like using Whatsapp or telegram. They would not charge for it because people would not use it, they would stick with SMS or Whatsapp. I think a lot of people will stick with whatsapp anyway, RCS have missed the boat and in the U.K at least Google have been having a hard time getting people to use it.

so in answer to your question, no, we don't pay for RCS.
 
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does cell plans in European countries charge for RCS messages like SMS+MMS?
Europe can have very different conditions as it isn't a single country but in my case my plan includes 3500 (why 3500? who knows?) free SMS+MMS.
I don't think have used ever used MMS besides that message 20 years ago to see whatever was that.

RCS will not be charged as such as it uses data, so it will be like using Whatsapp or telegram. They would not charge for it because people would not use it, they would stick with SMS or Whatsapp. I think a lot of people will stick with whatsapp anyway, RCS have missed the boat and in the U.K at least Google have been having a hard time getting people to use it.

so in answer to your question, no, we don't pay for RCS.
Exactly. RCS is like adding caller ID to land lines. Nobody cares.
 
Is this mainly a thing used in the US since the rest of the world is just using WhatsApp? I honestly don’t remember the last time I sent an SMS. Probably 15 years ago so this whole concept of sending a “text” to android users is foreign to me.
It’s weird to me that you guys always make this point like it’s some kind of flex.
WhatsApp is a crappy Facebook product. All of your conversations are being read and data-mined by Facebook.
 
It’s weird to me that you guys always make this point like it’s some kind of flex.
WhatsApp is a crappy Facebook product. All of your conversations are being read and data-mined by Facebook.

Nope. It got End to End Encryption before iMessage (including its backups) and don't give me the whole "you can only trust Apple with your data" nonsense when Apple is just another digital business like all the others. You think they'd be lying about End to End Encryption? The EU would be up their a** so fast!
 
Is this mainly a thing used in the US since the rest of the world is just using WhatsApp? I honestly don’t remember the last time I sent an SMS. Probably 15 years ago so this whole concept of sending a “text” to android users is foreign to me.
I wont install WhatsApp ever, its a Meta product, sorry that would make me a Meta product, I don't want to be in group chats and SMS/RCS or iMessage is just fine for my needs. I also make use of that strange feature called' telephoning people' which is the thing iPhones seems to have the biggest issues with, which is odd since it is an actual phone!
 
I know of a few people at my age or older that have disabled RCS on their Android phone. I don't need to disable it as i use a different text app don't support RCS.

The one problem with RCS is that it use data connection, and some of us don't go for big data packages, I have 4GB on my sim only contract, It is cheap, a fiver a month, unlimited text and unlimited voice. I can connect to Wi-fi in the house and at work, so I don't need a hige data package. But if I started to use RCS and allow people to send all sort of rubbish to me like useless videos and that sort of thing, it would start eating though my data.
I know people who have even less data or PAYG. This is why the people I said aboout above have disabled RCS. or one of the reasons.

SMS is fine for what I need it for, I am not sending messages of great importance, if I do then I will send it via email, encrypted. The other thing is I don't like google messages, i prefer textra.

If Apple is smart they will implement wise strategy as other messangers do and give you settings to load bigger files or media in RCS on wifi only at all. And to be sure they wont forget we can report it right away as requirement for next betas.
 
While it's definitely nice to finally get RCS support, the problem is that RCS has been passed by with the likes of WhatsApp, WeChat, LINE, and even Facebook Messenger, mostly because these apps are all operating system agnostic.
 
I think one important advantage of WhatsApp and similar services is that you can make (video) calls with Android users. I’m living abroad and RCS can’t replace that yet. The only option would be to set up a FaceTime call and share a link with others, I think.
 
RCS does use data. Depending upon the carrier, they may not count it against your data allowance.

None will. It wouldn’t make sense to count it because RCS is intended to replace the old SMS, so it should only use the limited or unlimited text messaging included in the user’s plan.
 
Nope. It got End to End Encryption before iMessage (including its backups) and don't give me the whole "you can only trust Apple with your data" nonsense when Apple is just another digital business like all the others. You think they'd be lying about End to End Encryption? The EU would be up their a** so fast!
Might check your facts, iMessage launched with E2EE years before WhatsApp introduced E2EE.
None will. It wouldn’t make sense to count it because RCS is intended to replace the old SMS, so it should only use the limited or unlimited text messaging included in the user’s plan.
RCS is nothing more than an OTT Messenger like iMessage or WhatsApp. It‘s not included in SMS flats here, it counts towards your data allotment and requires an active data connection (or via wifi, which is always free). That‘s most likely how it works everywhere else.

The original RCS was less OTT-style, but Google and co. turned it into what it is today so it‘s all data.
 
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Europe can have very different conditions as it isn't a single country but in my case my plan includes 3500 (why 3500? who knows?) free SMS+MMS.
I don't think have used ever used MMS besides that message 20 years ago to see whatever was that.


Exactly. RCS is like adding caller ID to land lines. Nobody cares.
I've pretty much came to the conclusion is the only people who really care about it is people who do most of their messaging with Apple Messages or Google Messages. In some places like Europe that is very few people. In other places like the U.S. or some other regions it's a lot of people. I think at this point there are very few places that will charge per RCS message.
 
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While it's definitely nice to finally get RCS support, the problem is that RCS has been passed by with the likes of WhatsApp, WeChat, LINE, and even Facebook Messenger, mostly because these apps are all operating system agnostic.
The advantage is RCS is like SMS/MMS. There isn't anything to sign up for and you don't have to make sure the other person is using the same app. If they have a phone number the service works on the preinstalled Apple Messages or Google Messages text apps. Some places people do not use those. Other places it's the most popular way to text.
 
While it's definitely nice to finally get RCS support, the problem is that RCS has been passed by with the likes of WhatsApp, WeChat, LINE, and even Facebook Messenger, mostly because these apps are all operating system agnostic.
Well yeah, but majority of US doesn't use any of those lol. That's the entire issue
 
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I think one important advantage of WhatsApp and similar services is that you can make (video) calls with Android users. I’m living abroad and RCS can’t replace that yet. The only option would be to set up a FaceTime call and share a link with others, I think.
That is true, I use Discord myself, mainly because it can be used on any platform including Linux, and also it is open source, but before that I did use Skype, but when Micrsoft took it over Skype was never the same. I eventually managed to talk the group I talk too online to move to Discord.

Facetime I must admit is amazing, a few years ago I stayed at my sister's place for a couple of weeks after coming out of hospital, and they have an Ipad and use it to chat to one of their sons, and I was amazed at the quality of the audio and video even on a naf slow broadband connection. Much better than skype.


There is one problem with Facetime, it is Apple products only.
 
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