They willI am really surprised they are not charging for this. I wonder how this will affect those companies that are selling this type of service.
This is false.Yeah. By definition, a satellite service is available worldwide. There are no -technical- reasons for Apple to restrict it to US only...
Yeah. By definition, a satellite service is available worldwide. There are no -technical- reasons for Apple to restrict it to US only...
It will probably be only a few more years until all cellular services will be handled by satellite, and that current cell towers will become a quaint and obsolete technology.
I’m fairly sure you could have a single geo-stationary satellite that is not available worldwide. If only the world was flat.Yeah. By definition, a satellite service is available worldwide. There are no -technical- reasons for Apple to restrict it to US only...
No, the limitation is probably just the number of satellites required. Apple didn’t launch their own satellite above the US, so they’re probably just paying for the satellite coverage that covers that area of the Earth’s surface, which will probably cover a good chunk of Canada’s southern half, too. And Mexico, plus the Caribbean.
Not sure if a satellite can (or would bother) discerning an emergency signal coming from the US vs Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver, etc.
Even so, I don’t know why they’re doing it. Maybe it’s only being enabled in the US as part of a limited trial. There’s nothing stopping Apple from releasing it elsewhere besides money for more satellite access.
Maybe. But I kind of think it is the opposite. Satellite service have nowhere near the capacity of terrestrial radio networks (think frequency reuse). In fact, both Globalstar and Iridium both went Chapter 11 in early part of century due to the wide and relatively cheap adoption of conventional cellular during the ‘90s. (Although the high cost of launch services did not help)It will probably be only a few more years until all cellular services will be handled by satellite, and that current cell towers will become a quaint and obsolete technology.
Depends who owns the birds right? Satellites are typically in a stationary orbit and hence only cover a certain area. Satellites operating over North America may not be run by the same companies having satellites over Europe. Apple may currently only have contracts with North American satellite service providers for this texting service.Yeah. By definition, a satellite service is available worldwide. There are no -technical- reasons for Apple to restrict it to US only...
Maybe, I would think they are accounting for it already in the base cost of the phone itself. And given that it is also a safety issue, it might not go over well if they say, welp, you didn't pay the extra $1.95/mo so it sucks to be you stuck in the middle of nowhere.I think Apple will eventually charge for this option after the first year with purchase.
Actually there are now at least an order of magnitude more satellites in low earth orbitDepends who owns the birds right? Satellites are typically in a stationary orbit and hence only cover a certain area. Satellites operating over North America may not be run by the same companies having satellites over Europe. Apple may currently only have contracts with North American satellite service providers for this texting service.
Maybe, I would think they are accounting for it already in the base cost of the phone itself. And given that it is also a safety issue, it might not go over well if they say, welp, you didn't pay the extra $1.95/mo so it sucks to be you stuck in the middle of nowhere.
I think you misunderstood. In California the service doesn't use satellite but seagulls. There must not have been a sufficient number flying overhead at the time to carry your messages.Don’t get too excited about this. I happened to get my 16 Pro the Friday before leaving for a backpacking trip in the Sierra Nevada mountains. I tried numerous times throughout the weekend to send messages from the tops of mountains, and while the UI is very cool, I spent up to 10 minutes standing there like an idiot slowly spinning to maintain the satellite connection while that little blue bar slowly crept across the screen, only for it to fail to send. I got one message out the whole weekend, and received one response, to which I couldn’t even successfully send a “thumbs up” reaction…
you do know its only free for 2 years on newer iPhonesI am really surprised they are not charging for this. I wonder how this will affect those companies that are selling this type of service.
As a St. Ives (Cornwall) Lad I left for city life plus when I was a teenager signal for mobiles was very bad! Maybe next time I’m down I’ll get it to work via satellite 🙂🙂I was recently down in Cornwall and at various places I had no reception (EE) and no WiFi whatsoever. The signal icon at the top of the screen turned into a "Satellite" icon, I sent a text message to my wife, and she received it within a minute or two. So Who Knows, Maybe we have it in the UK,but not officially. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Should be possible somehow. Disconnect all cell services and disconnect wifi?Is there a way to do this if my iPhone has signal, but not enough to actually send a text?
This happened to me during the hurricane where my phone was connected to 5G UWB on Verizon, but for some reason I couldn't even send a SMS message, let alone an iMessage.
For location sharing I have to roam onto a network I can’t use so that’s easy then cut off WiFi then usually the icon appears in the top right corner but never able to txt only locationShould be possible somehow. Disconnect all cell services and disconnect wifi?
Cool down. As mentioned above, what I meant is Apple uses Globalstar LEO constellation.This is false.
Satellite service is not "by definition" worldwide. Physics alone means that a satellite on the other side of the globe in geosynchronous orbit cannot communicate with a ground station as it does not have line of sight. It takes a constellation of satellites to maintain complete global coverage. The number of which is dependent on numerous factors including frequency, altitude of the satellite, orbital pattern, and the robustness of the ground station.
If you're looking for a simplistic real world example, satellite radio would be a good one. The coverage is limited by the positioning of the satellites over the Western hemisphere. You can't receive these radio signals in the Eastern hemisphere, in the Arctic areas of Canada, or past the Southern tip of Mexico.
It's simply not worldwide because it's satellite.