iOS 18 Updates Continue to Cause Delays in Apple's iOS 19 Plans

[9081094]

Everything Apple does regarding software is really bad and it has been for a long time. The problem is the competition focuses on selling your information and their hardware is not as great as Apple's

Which hardware are you referring to? Because i regularly compare other brands in stores to see how they compare to Apples offerings.

I can honestly say that they’ve all mimicked Apple In quality and design. The only thing Apple still exceeds today is their steep prices.

 

[dominiongamma]

If only Apple execs and shareholders weren't so insistent on having something for sale each and every Christmas...

Why not give it a break and let the software developers catch up?

Apple was best under Jobs because he ran in his visions not what stock holders wanted because they didn’t know the smartphone market well then but it’s mature now where the company is about profit over vision sadly

 

[iPhoneFan5349]

Yea, you're right with the AI thing. It's especially frustrating for me watch because I...just...don't....give...a...crap..about..AI! Not from Apple, or openAI, or anyone else..

This is most bored I've been with software and tech in years...

What do you do? AI has been a revolution this past year. Although there were people saying the same thing about the internet lol

 

[xpxp2002]

What do you do? AI has been a revolution this past year. Although there were people saying the same thing about the internet lol

It's not. It has just been overhyped up by investors trying to pump and dump the industry over speculation completely absent from reality. This is just VR headsets, cryptocurrency, and NFTs all over again.

 

[I7guy]

I suspect that lunatic legislators and lobyymachinists (in this case in Europe) are significantly disrupting the progress in updates, out of stupidity or as an expression of power.

An iCloud synchronized with an AI machine will serve different interfaces than one without AI with the same operating system. This is actually a terrible mess and a depressing burden for Apple (and therefore for Western industrialized nations). Then there's the dispute with China over their GPT environment. Our world is no longer capable of silencing busybodies, and progress suffers as a result.

Apple certainly has a clean, precise roadmap, but it is being undermined by chaotic people in positions of power. That's a shame, because we customers suffer as a result.

(love you, turbineseaplane)

I agree with you. Apple has to retool iOS to make sure it complies with the DMA. That’s twice the development. Apple is doing a remarkable job given the climate it has to work in.

 

[9081094]

Yea, you're right with the AI thing. It's especially frustrating for me watch because I...just...don't....give...a...crap..about..AI! Not from Apple, or openAI, or anyone else..

This is most bored I've been with software and tech in years...

I understand completely what you’re saying about AI. BUT: it won’t go away and when good implemented will save you lots of time.

AI is the future wether you like it or not.

 

[raindogg]

They should stop with the yearly update and just add features as they complete them. Most people can care less what the version number is, they just want to use the phone.

 

[I7guy]

And getting even further behind the development of Android? It took Samsung 2 months to develop the same look and feel iOS 18 is giving with their new UI. Everybody is already years ahead of what Apple is offering.

But nobody delivers the total experience.

It’s a shame this is happening. It’s a multibillion company and it is scrambling to keep up in hard- and software.

Due to their ecosystem they are way ahead of the game.

Maybe a bit less profit and more investment in hard- and software engineers?

Less profit? Why should they. Everyone should buy what suits them.

 

[spazzcat]

What do you do? AI has been a revolution this past year. Although there were people saying the same thing about the internet lol

I see comments like they made over and over. I think they are either scared, in an industry that will be easily replaced by AI, or have just no idea what is going on with AI right now.

 

[RemedyRabbit]

It looks Apple doesn’t care on many fronts, not only music. They’re getting leapfrogged by competitors in categories they were once king.

Time for Timmy to spend more of the billions in R&D, hard- and software engineers. The gap with the competition is widening each month.

This is what gets me, they wouldn’t need to spend all that much to produce some big improvements. $1million investment on the frontend design of the music app would be nothing to them and it’d make a huge difference. It’s almost like they’re scared to make changes. Or perhaps they feel like they don’t need to bother.

 

[9081094]

But nobody delivers the total experience.

Due to their ecosystem they are way ahead of the game.

Less profit? Why should they. Everyone should buy what suits them.

They all deliver the same experience and offer the same ecosystems.

Have you checked other brands these last 5 years?

 

[WarmWinterHat]

What do you do? AI has been a revolution this past year. Although there were people saying the same thing about the internet lol

Everyone I hear saying that works in tech or a tech-adjacent field. I don't. I work in clinical pharmacy, and no one is talking about, discussing it, or pitching it to us. There is some interest in direct medicine, but not in my area. I was at a nation-wide conference just a few weeks ago, and it wasn't mentioned once.

I work for the biggest healthcare company in the state, and we can't even use AI on the premises. It's network-wide blocked, across the board, from all companies.

I'm not scared of it, or nervous, I just don't have any interest or care about it whatsoever.

I understand completely what you’re saying about AI. BUT: it won’t go away and when good implemented will save you lots of time.

AI is the future wether you like it or not.

It's a future, for some people and some industries. It doesn't cover everything, nor should it try to.

 

[coolfactor]

The situation is unfortunately expected to result in a similarly staggered deployment of features in the next iOS cycle that is likely to frustrate many Apple users.

I don't find the staggered rollout to be frustrating. It spreads the excitement across several months.

What is frustrating is when you have an older device that receives an update, but you can't use it. iPhone 13 Pro here stuck on the "old Siri". I just want to darn glowing bezel! Why can't we have that?!? 😇

 

[coolfactor]

Everyone I hear saying that works in tech or a tech-adjacent field. I don't. I work in clinical pharmacy, and no one is talking about, discussing it, or pitching it to us. There is some interest in direct medicine, but not in my area. I was at a nation-wide conference just a few weeks ago, and it wasn't mentioned once.

I work for the biggest healthcare company in the state, and we can't even use AI on the premises. It's network-wide blocked, across the board, from all companies.

I'm not scared of it, or nervous, I just don't have any interest or care about it whatsoever.



It's a future, for some people and some industries. It doesn't cover everything, nor should it try to.

You don't care about it because ... you are prevented from actually using it?

People keep forgetting that AI is not just one thing. "Generative" AI is the new kid on the block. Your existing hospital computers already use the decades-old "machine learning" subset of AI to varying degrees, as do much of your medical software packages.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

You don't care about it because ... you are prevented from actually using it?

People keep forgetting that AI is not just one thing. "Generative" AI is the new kid on the block. Your existing hospital computers already use the decades-old "machine learning" subset of AI to varying degrees, as do much of your medical software packages.

No, I don't care about it because I don't care about. I have tried it on my own.

I don't care about like I don't care about the daily life of a truck driver, or what you had for dinner two days ago, what a hedgehog thinks about, what I would look like with gold eye shadow, or the color of the bathroom wall on the 4th floor...

I'm just not interested.

 

[I7guy]

They all deliver the same experience and offer the same ecosystems.

In your opinion.

Have you checked other brands these last 5 years?

Yes and in my opinion, apple is way ahead of the game. Of course ymmv.

 

[TechWhisperer]

The Apple experience gets worse every year. It’s not as polished as it used to be.

 

[platinumaqua]

The current Apple trend is to make everything huge and add a bunch of huge tip/description blocks that can't be disabled. Also a bunch of change for change's sake. I dread software updates now

 

[GuyDouche]

Expect developers to fully be caught up on optimistically iOS 20, but more realistically iOS 21

 

[kid1230]

same old apple... never change LOL

 

[kid1230]

I’m ok with 2 year/longer release cycles for a more refined experience. Sounds like they’re playing catchup nowadays. The OS is really mature so it’s not like the days of iOS4 where each OS was a big leap forward compared to the previous.

You're okay but it's not just you c:

 

[bluespark]

People on MacRumors are funny. They complain when Apple doesn't release every single software feature at once, but then they complain when Apple takes the time to roll out software features gradually, waiting until the features are actually ready.

I can't speak for others, but I don't think this inconsistency is quite at the level you perceive. Yes, people are impatient for new features to be released, particularly once announced. But I've seen few arguments that Apple should release features before they are ready or that it needs to release all features at once.

 

[Razeus]

It's been a disasterous iOS release. Not sure what's going on with Apple other than getting caught by surprise with this AI business. Personally, I don't think it's a "thing" and will go away. Afterall, I'm still having to do things myself and not automatically as I deem "AI" to just do it for me. If I'm going to write an email, why would I waste even more time letting AI "clean it up", for me to further evaluate it, change it, and then send. That's not productive at all. I'll continue to write email as I always have: write, proofread, send.

 

[Ozid]

It's snowballing on a minor scale, but this could quickly get out of hand. Theres still space to pump the brakes, making 19 an extremely minor update but with a full featured release at launch. This allows 20 to be even larger of an update, as it should be with such a monumental release.

The answer is incredibly simple. Use 19 to make what you have better. Use the landmark iOS 20 to drop some magic.

 

[guzhogi]

I said it before, and I'll say it again: I'd love to see Apple skip a year between major OS releases, and focus on really rebuilding its various OSes. I'd like to see Apple get rid of as much of the older Objective-C, OpenGL, whatever code, and replace it with Swift, SwiftUI & Metal. Not sure how much the Mac, iPad, iPhone and AppleTV teams collaborate, but hoping they can utilize the same code for a lot of the stuff so it's easier and faster to code the same features in the different devices, and easier for consumers to go between and not relearn things.