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A foundational aspect of AI is Machine Learning (ML), which is heavily sprinkled across Apple's operating systems that you use every day without even knowing it. Now imagine removing all that ML functionality, but everything else was exactly the same. Our computing experiences would be overwhelming and frustrating!

No learning keyboards (for auto-suggest)
No smartly-grouped notifications.
No photo processing pipelines that improve the look of our photos
.. and countless other ways that are "invisible" to us, but helpful.

Generative AI (eg. ChatGPT) is just one capability and doesn't represent the entirety of what AI has to offer.

ALL things that are infuriating and have to be turned off (for the ones that even can be turned off).

Auto suggest sucks. Auto correct sucks more.
Grouped notifications suck.
Automatic photo-screwup sucks.

No, our computing experience would be better if those things had never been invented. Computers were better BEFORE they started trying to outsmart us.

One reason we refer to Snow Leopard as peak Macintosh is because those annoyances weren't there yet.
 
All you have to do is get a Pixel 😊

any aosp device works, just mentioned pixel as an example. also, what's up with the weird smiley emoji, your text and smiley seems sarcastic. if sarcasm is your goal here, what gives? I get that iOS has merits. I'm just looking for them to improve.
 
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18.2 is a much bigger release when it comes to AI features. The next one will be in Spring 2025 with 18.4

Definitely Glad I skipped upgrading. Yes, By time the AI is available the 16 will be 3/4 into its release cycle.
 
Apple apparently believes they are a hardware company only now! Throw in a few emoji’s and here is iOS 19.
 
The purpose of an OS is not to provide entertainment.

As I was once a clown in a former life, now living in a clown world, it’s all entertainment to me, more fun this way. You should give it a try.

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Why not just release 19.0 in Spring '26, with ALL the features?
Why not just release iOS 30.0 with ALL of Apple Intelligence features ?

/s

Apple Intelligence wasn't supposed to be a done thing in iOS 18.0. It's probably not going to be done in 5 years.
 
They won’t stop tying the major-version OS updates to new iPhone model releases, because the OS updates do drive new iPhone model sales. It may be irrational, but people are less likely to update their phone if the new one will run the same old iOS version they’ve already been using for month.
Sure, that's something of a factor, but some of the promised upcoming AI features really will require faster hardware and more RAM than Apple has been able to get into even the latest iPhone 16 models, at least to get the best performance, or just adequate performance, in Apple's opinion. So we'll have to wait for Apple to manage to cram even more processing power into newer iPhone models, while keeping the prices the same or similar.
 
Not surprising at all. In the recent past, new features have a staggered release. But considering the fact that already some of the features are rumored for Spring 2026, will not be even surprised if those features are a part of iOS 20.
 
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[Gurman] said this upgrade will make Siri more like OpenAI's ChatGPT, allowing the assistant to "handle more sophisticated requests."
Sounds good! But will Siri then also be able to handle the less sophisticated, even basic requests it flounders with today?
 
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Sure, that's something of a factor, but some of the promised upcoming AI features really will require faster hardware and more RAM than Apple has been able to get into even the latest iPhone 16 models, at least to get the best performance, or just adequate performance, in Apple's opinion. So we'll have to wait for Apple to manage to cram even more processing power into newer iPhone models, while keeping the prices the same or similar.
Won't be long when 16GB RAM will be minimum on all iPhone & iPad, in addition to Macs
 
Won't be long when 16GB RAM will be minimum on all iPhone & iPad, in addition to Macs

I really don't know why anyone would find this surprising, distressing, or funny. This has been the case from the beginning of modern stored-program computers. Thank goodness Moore's law is continuing to hold and keeping it a viable trend for at least a little while longer. I really don't think you'd find an iPhone nearly as useful as you do now if it came with the 4Kb of an Apple I.
 
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Latest rumor:

Apple software vp has been playing with the internet and it found it interesting. Apple is now rumored to invest in the development of some internet technologies to release with iOS 22.4 in April of 2028, to stay ahead of the competition.
 
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Or just take a break from the yearly OS updates. We don't need new OSs every year. I wish we'd have a 4-5 year release schedule like we used to from software companies. We don't need constant releases, we shouldn't rush to push code and features. Let's slow down.
If they won’t slow down devices every year with bugged updates, people will stop buying new iPhones. This happened a lot in the Windows XP era when many people updated their PCs only once in 10-15 years
 
- upsample low res content

- stretch SDR content out to HDR (kinda like colorizing B/W) and
- what the hell, colorize BW (long term stretch goal!...)
Only if those are optional and easy to disable. No way I want default HDR on my TV. Every time I buy another TV set from Samsung or LG I waste 2-4 hours disabling all similar features and “intelligent noise reduction”. I was furious when I connected my GoPro to TV and started watching thru footage just to see that they made watercolors and CCTV-like footage from perfectly good videos. AI and image doesn’t always equal good. Many users hate such behavior without even realizing they can turn it off.

Apple, Google and Samsung doing the same with photos. Every photo comes with unremovable autoHDR, over-sharpened and fully denoised. And which option do they give? Shoot RAW. And then waste time to edit RAW. And then export JPEG out of RAW. And then get rid of RAW dng files scattered all around. And all of this wastes my time as a photographer, I want a simple days when I take a photo, edit and it is ready to be uploaded, not this artificial madness
 
A foundational aspect of AI is Machine Learning (ML), which is heavily sprinkled across Apple's operating systems that you use every day without even knowing it. Now imagine removing all that ML functionality, but everything else was exactly the same. Our computing experiences would be overwhelming and frustrating!

No learning keyboards (for auto-suggest)
No smartly-grouped notifications.
No photo processing pipelines that improve the look of our photos
.. and countless other ways that are "invisible" to us, but helpful.

Generative AI (eg. ChatGPT) is just one capability and doesn't represent the entirety of what AI has to offer.
In my experience every one of the things you listed got worse with ML. 🤷‍♂️
 
Sounds good! But will Siri then also be able to handle the less sophisticated, even basic requests it flounders with today?
I swear to god my siri can't play music. I say "hey siri, play music" and it would take like 10 seconds to say sorry I'm having trouble with this request try again later. Talk about a new level of uselessness.
 
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Or just take a break from the yearly OS updates. We don't need new OSs every year. I wish we'd have a 4-5 year release schedule like we used to from software companies. We don't need constant releases, we shouldn't rush to push code and features. Let's slow down.
No one does 4-5 year software releases.
 
Why not just release 19.0 in Spring '26, with ALL the features?
Why not just release features every week as they're ready? The big annual release is an antiquated holdover from the days of updates coming on physical media.

Making this change does mean that updates have to actually install quickly, though. It's quite bizarre how slowly most updates install right now... the installation time should be closer to a minute than an hour.
 
Why not just release features every week as they're ready? The big annual release is an antiquated holdover from the days of updates coming on physical media.

Making this change does mean that updates have to actually install quickly, though. It's quite bizarre how slowly most updates install right now... the installation time should be closer to a minute than an hour.
Guessing you've never released an OS before?
 
Because they can't release iPhone 17 in September 2025 with IOS 18
Well they managed to do it with the 16, had sod all new stuff for a good month or two and iOS 18 is still far from finished as new stuff is still rolling out!

iPhone 16 may have had iOS 18, but at release it may as well have been called iOS 17.8.
 
Guessing you've never released an OS before?
An OS? No. But I release software updates on a daily basis. Plenty of teams have pulled me in because their release processes take hours, and I figure out how to get their process to take seconds-minutes instead.

I wouldn't mind the challenge of coming in and figuring out how to install the OS faster. I don't doubt that the device is 99% idle during the update and could run 100x faster if the available resources were properly utilized and processes properly ran in parallel.

Of course, it seems to me Apple already fixed this a couple years ago and they're just too afraid of actually using it (I can't recall what it was called... they used it once, it caused some user-agent strings to change which broke Facebook, and then they never used the feature again...)
 
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Why not just release 19.0 in Spring '26, with ALL the features?
Yeah, I agree with you except with the whole waiting until 2026 part

Heck for Apple Intelligence as is, it is still wayyyy behind the curve compared to Google and OpenAI

They really should have just released it all at once instead of phasing it out like they did here
 
iOS needs another Snow Leopard release.
That it does

Seriously, instead of trying to play catchup with all this other AI stuff, it really needs just another release that focuses on quality of life fixes, just like Snow Leopard did back then

Why they didn't just release all the AI stuff at once instead of doing these phased releases is just confusing to say the least
 
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