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Sequoia has been solid for me, what problems have you encountered?
Let’s see, since the update my computer will never lock the screen no matter how long I wait or settings I change. Yet if I manually lock it from the menu, my watch won’t unlock it anymore, even though it’s set up. And worst of all, Apple blocked Google drive. I used to have it as a program. If you go into App Store it says it’s not compatible with my computer. Yet it was and worked fine till Sequoia.
 
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“In the report, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman highlights some of visionOS's key visual elements: circular app icons”

Its time that Apple rolls with the times, rather than being square.
 
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Id love and welcome a complete redesign but lets be realistic here....

"BIG" change? Really? I dont think iOS7 was massive just aesthetically a little different thats all.

Whats changing here? Look and feel? Like a new skin on the OS? Will it materially change the way we interact with the phone and navigate features?
Or, more likely will it just have marginal cosmetic changes with everything else remaining the same underneath that veneer.
iOS 7 was "a little different"?

We got Airdrop, the Control Center, Carplay, the app switcher, automatic background software updates, and several completely redone apps (like Photos). Not to mention completely overhauling the UI.

If you don't think that was "massive", I'm not sure any OS update would ever qualify.
 
Really hope they don’t go round. Just feels tacky to me/similar to Android.

Also we just switched to the square icons on MacOS, what was the point? Now every app will need to update their icon again? Not a huge deal but like why
Because if it is square make it round? If it’s huge make it mini, if is is shiny, make it matte, etc etc etc. change for change sake.
 
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Circular app icons? Eeuww.
They may look better or worse (opinions vary), but what they definitely do is provide less potential for imparting information - you're lopping off the corners - if you had two icons that looked similar except for something in or or more corners, they'll now look near identical.

And what does this do to widgets? Previously they have appeared as essentially large (e.g. 2x2) icons - if you make them round to keep up the design aesthetic, then they can hold much less useful information.
 
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Give us a circular phone and circular monitors for our circular icons!
Not gonna happen, but you can have a circular mouse.
 

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I expect a near universally negative response from normie Apple users, just like every other major UI change Apple has tried in the last few years.
A couple betas of Apple deluding itself that people will just accept the major changes before slowly rolling them back with toggles in the settings to revert to the previous layout.

No one cares about the UI, Apple. People just want you to deliver on promised features you announced several versions ago but have yet to deliver on.
Personally I love the VisionOS, and IMO moving the other OSs in that direction makes sense.

Note: all those folks here commenting negatively that have not spent a few hours with visionOS simply don't know what they are talking about.
 
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Earlier this month, Bloomberg reported that Apple is planning "one of the most dramatic software overhauls in the company's history" – an update that aims to bring iOS, iPadOS, and macOS into closer visual alignment. The redesign is said to be "loosely based" on visionOS, the software behind Apple's Vision Pro headset, and will reportedly update the look of icons, menus, apps, windows, and system buttons.
What is "dramatic" about using the same user-unfriendly flat design that Apple copied from Microsoft and has been using since 2013? A truly "dramatic overhaul" would be rehiring Apple's most Steve Jobs-like visionary, Scott Forstall, and going back to the exact same skeuomorphic design as iOS 6.

Tim Cook is such a dimwit that he allowed Jony Ive to completely discard the most user-friendly smartphone GUI based on over three deacades of prior personal computer GUI research. Dim Tim is clearly not a product person.
 
If Apple were to do a major overhaul of it's various operating systems, I would hope they focus on three areas:
1. There are lot's of inconsistencies between and within what we have today. I think that the root of this is less of a focus on proper UI design, as opposed to lot's of discussion of "pretty" things like the shapes of icons, etc. Having said that, I'll contradict myself by saying there's lots of room for improvement in the design of icons. But that improvement should be from a functional UI point of view where shapes, colors, functionality, etc enhance intuitiveness and usability. I personally like the current Camera icon in iOS 18.3.2, the design makes the shape of the icon sufficiently neutral that it fades away so that the visual impression is the camera itself. On the other hand, we have been stuck with the Contacts icon for so long. Perhaps it's me, but I find it hard to pick out. It doesn't seem fit well visually.
2. Recently it's occurred to me how many settings there are today. Compare that to the original Mac UI where the goal was simplifying to the extent that users didn't need to be too concerned with settings. I can understand the opportunity for playing with so many settings might appeal to the geeks among us who can alter the way the system works to suit particular needs. It's a minefield, especially when one can cause problems by incorrectly toggling options without realizing dependencies among settings. The user shouldn't have to know about interdependencies among settings. The system should be making it much simpler for the user. This is particularly the case with more recent settings associated with the need to improve security.
3. And I think this should have the highest priority. Many of us are complaining about what we see as bugs. It seems it's an ever growing list that generally takes much too long to fix. Granted, as the code base expands, one should expect opportunities for bugs to rise with it. I see an opportunity for organizations such as MacRumors to play a helpful role. I understand that MacRumors is a site for users to enjoy the speculations and often insightful rumors. But Macrumors also provides opportunities for users to take advantage of the large body of expertise that participates in discussions. I see that as a powerful contribution. However I think MacRumors could also play a powerful role on behalf of the community by highlighting the need for Apple to do a better job of avoiding and squashing bugs.
I think you make a great point about how apple has introduced complexity.

Case in point - the focus modes, trying to work out what each of them do and how they are triggered is confusing.

And connected to that is how you track sleep, set alarms etc. you need to go to the clock app, settings and the health app - and understand how focus modes work. Needless to say, this is confusing and needlessly complicated.
 
iOS 7 was "a little different"?

We got Airdrop, the Control Center, Carplay, the app switcher, automatic background software updates, and several completely redone apps (like Photos). Not to mention completely overhauling the UI.

If you don't think that was "massive", I'm not sure any OS update would ever qualify.
Agreed, along with the update that introduced iCloud (iOS 5 I think & sadly Jobs’ last key note) & iOS 9 (if you had a iPhone X), I don’t think that there’s been a bigger iOS update.
 
Will be interesting to see all the changes. Being visual changes it should be available on day one of the software release.
 
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I’m really getting tired of the superlatives. Every time they come out with something its the biggest change ever, or the most important update ever or the most advanced update ever, or fill in the blank. Just come out with the update or new hardware and let us decide.
Welcome to Marketing 101. No company ever brings something new to market and says "Meh, it's pretty much just like the last one, buy it if you want to but there's no real reason".
 
Yes I also think that going with circular app icons for iOS will be a mistake. But guys this is just a red herring.
The real disaster I feel coming up is hinted in the Invites app.
See how there’s no bottom bar with icons to switch between app screens, like there is in every other app, for example in Music? They’ve hidden them under a button. What was previously accessible and easy to see is now hidden and requires an extra tap in the top left corner of the screen.
You might think it’s a good idea because now they can add more app screens, right? But invites only has 5 options… just like the bottom bar in Music has 5 options. So nothing is gained. It’s just forcing that stupid design language on us, the same one that we saw in the Safari redesign they later rolled back, where all icons and options were hidden and required extra taps to access. Except this time we’re getting this all over iOS.
 
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I thought they’ve been circular icons by default for ages? Android 15 on the Pixel 9a shows circle icons in the screenshots. Last time I used android though you could go into edit home screen and choose from a variety of shapes
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Edit: I googled the home screens for stock android 15 all the way down to Android 10 and they all had circle icons. I stopped looking there.
You are probably right, I haven’t used Android since 2021…
 
Whatever new visual stuff they add, they'd better have a way to turn it off, or older devices are going to get slower trying to handle it. Won't matter so much on my iPad 9, which already doesn't get Apple Intelligence and is mostly used for media consumption and games, but for people with older phones, having that more sluggish interface when you're trying to answer a call would suck.
 
iOS 7 was "a little different"?

We got Airdrop, the Control Center, Carplay, the app switcher, automatic background software updates, and several completely redone apps (like Photos). Not to mention completely overhauling the UI.

If you don't think that was "massive", I'm not sure any OS update would ever qualify.
we did

but how did any of those functions materially change the way the phone fundamentally worked?

Still page after page of static app icons. Menus very similar despite the complete strip out of skeuomorphism.

New functions don't mean all new.

You could apply the same argument to many many other things such as the App Library, multiple ofter Photos app updates, the removal of iTunes replacing it with TV and Music etc etc.

Again, none of these things have fundamentally changed how you *use* the phone and nor will iOS19. Its going to be a fresh coat of paint nothing more.
 
Hmm, I don't really like circular icons. I mean, it's been an option via jailbreaking since the OG iPhone, and without jailbreaking these days if you want to go through all that hassle with Apple's UI scripting app, I forget the name, so we've had plenty opportunities to try this out. I generally use square icon sets on my Linux DEs too.

I think circular icons work on WatchOS because they appear to the left of the app names in a long, scrolling list, so they function like bullet points. They work in the old view too because it's laid out on a hex grid and circles are closer to hexagons than squares are. On a square grid, though, or in a flat dock, I think they look unnatural.
 
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