I mean, it didn't change the way I tapped on an icon to launch the app, but otherwise, iOS7 did change the way I used the phone.we did
but how did any of those functions materially change the way the phone fundamentally worked?
Still page after page of static app icons. Menus very similar despite the complete strip out of skeuomorphism.
New functions don't mean all new.
You could apply the same argument to many many other things such as the App Library, multiple ofter Photos app updates, the removal of iTunes replacing it with TV and Music etc etc.
Again, none of these things have fundamentally changed how you *use* the phone and nor will iOS19. Its going to be a fresh coat of paint nothing more.
"There hasn't been a desktop OS that materially changes the way a computer fundamentally works since the Xerox Alto 50 years ago.we did
but how did any of those functions materially change the way the phone fundamentally worked?
Still page after page of static app icons. Menus very similar despite the complete strip out of skeuomorphism.
New functions don't mean all new.
You could apply the same argument to many many other things such as the App Library, multiple ofter Photos app updates, the removal of iTunes replacing it with TV and Music etc etc.
Again, none of these things have fundamentally changed how you *use* the phone and nor will iOS19. Its going to be a fresh coat of paint nothing more.
💯% agree!Apple needs to focus on prioritising stable software rather than creating useless redesigns.
Though a lot of what you say is light hearted, theres much which is just not really feasible or already actually works anyway.💯% agree!
In addition, instead of imposing yet another mandatory OS redesign, with weird choices, omitted favorites, and inevitable screw-ups, give us, finally, customization!
Let us set up our own Home Screen interface, with predesigned templates that users can choose among and customize as they desire. As a model, look no further than the marvelous Z Launcher from Palm days.
The left-hand side (narrow) (or right, user choice) had multi-colored user-chosen and user-labeled tabs — letting you set up your own categories — e.g., Astronomy, Books, Games, TV & Movies, Notes, Utilities. A single tap took you to that category's set of apps. You could drag-and-drop apps between categories. Convenient, fast, brilliant design. None of this scrolling through page after page of home screens.
The current folders system is an awkward substitute.
Let us also be able to customize the Lock Screen and Top Bar — and, for gosh sakes, let us finally turn off the display of the time if we desire. (And display whichever icons we want wherever we want.)
We shouldn’t have THE TIME thrust in our face every time we turn on or want to use our iPhones or iPads. In particular, when I read or do stargazing in the middle of the night, I don’t want to know or be reminded of what time it is or how long I’ve been reading or outside. Others do. So, let us decide which we want.
Let us also roll back our devices to any previous iOS or iPad OS if we want to. Too late, too many discover that they despise the new OS, lose lots of battery life, or end up with sluggish devices. People have often inadvertently upgraded. If I buy a product, I should be able to restore it to its original condition or roll it back to the previous OS. Maybe the EU can take this up… ✅ 👍🏽 😁
Resist the iOS Tyranny! The User should be King and Master of the Universe!
Yea I understand all about marketing. Maybe its just me but it seems like lately Apple is overly hyping up their software and under delivering.Welcome to Marketing 101. No company ever brings something new to market and says "Meh, it's pretty much just like the last one, buy it if you want to but there's no real reason".
It would be nice if we could have another Snow Leopard moment.💯% agree!
In addition, instead of imposing yet another mandatory OS redesign, with weird choices, omitted favorites, and inevitable screw-ups, give us, finally, customization!
Let us set up our own Home Screen interface, with predesigned templates that users can choose among and customize as they desire. As a model, look no further than the marvelous Z Launcher from Palm days.
The left-hand side (narrow) (or right, user choice) had multi-colored user-chosen and user-labeled tabs — letting you set up your own categories — e.g., Astronomy, Books, Games, TV & Movies, Notes, Utilities. A single tap took you to that category's set of apps. You could drag-and-drop apps between categories. Convenient, fast, brilliant design. None of this scrolling through page after page of home screens.
The current folders system is an awkward substitute.
Let us also be able to customize the Lock Screen and Top Bar — and, for gosh sakes, let us finally turn off the display of the time if we desire. (And display whichever icons we want wherever we want.)
We shouldn’t have THE TIME thrust in our face every time we turn on or want to use our iPhones or iPads. In particular, when I read or do stargazing in the middle of the night, I don’t want to know or be reminded of what time it is or how long I’ve been reading or outside. Others do. So, let us decide which we want.
Let us also roll back our devices to any previous iOS or iPad OS if we want to. Too late, too many discover that they despise the new OS, lose lots of battery life, or end up with sluggish devices. People have often inadvertently upgraded. If I buy a product, I should be able to restore it to its original condition or roll it back to the previous OS. Maybe the EU can take this up… ✅ 👍🏽 😁
Resist the iOS Tyranny! The User should be King and Master of the Universe!
Round icons were present waaaayyyy before they were introduced in Android skins. These people keep acting like Android introduced everything.Why round icons? Because they want to be like Android? Why fix what is not broken? If they want to fix something, they should fix meaningful stuff -- provide a way to disable temporal dithering, solutions for PWM, fixing Siri, etc. I guess those are too difficult. Much easier to change one line of code that changes all icons to round?
If they would just make Siri smarter and more practical, as well as, unifying the design language of the OSs more while keeping macOS uniquely macOS, then that would be a solid win in my book. When you have many different design elements competing, even just within macOS, it’s kind of confusing. Simplification doesn’t mean, making macOS function like iOS and vice versa, but keeping the styling similar so you can easily switch between each OS without having to hunt for commonly used functions and apps. Should all the OSs have circular icons though, I don’t see it as necessary, but the design of this icons however, no matter what the shape, need to be consistent. Doesn’t mean there can’t be any minor differences in the icons between OSs though, like with the notes app, it’s icon across the board should match that of visionOS (it just looks better in my opinion).Yea I understand all about marketing. Maybe its just me but it seems like lately Apple is overly hyping up their software and under delivering.
Yeah, I agree, circle icons wouldn’t make much sense. And there aren’t any real leaks or rumors from inside Apple indicating they will switch to circle icons, this is just some people wishcasting for it and creating mockups. While it’s true that visionOS has circle app icons, it places them on a honeycomb grid like watchOS, and they don’t live alongside square and rectangular widgets. Circle icons with square and rectangular widgets placed on a square grid looks ugly, and just looks like bad design. There are zero indicators that iOS, iPadOS, and macOS are switching to circle icons…Really hope they don’t go round. Just feels tacky to me/similar to Android.
Also we just switched to the square icons on MacOS, what was the point? Now every app will need to update their icon again? Not a huge deal but like why
Exactly. That's what Steve Jobs did, and the result was Snow Leopard, which turned out to be the most stable and reliable operating system Apple has ever made.apple needs a year introducing no new features and work on all the bugs in their OS
No new features for an entire year would be a bad idea in my opinion. And it’s not like there are many bugs. I’ve never run into any bugs in the public versions of iOS 18.Exactly. That's what Steve Jobs did, and the result was Snow Leopard, which turned out to be the most stable and reliable operating system Apple has ever made.