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The irony

The one place in Earth this could be genuinely useful for travel is in continental Europe. You know, the place where all of these languages originated. Geographically these countries are very close to each other and there’s a lot of travelling.

Unfortunately it won’t work for both eu members and Americans/English visiting the European Union. Because…. Reasons
 
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Seriously, don't use this. It's such an obnoxious idea. Using headphones to talk to someone when you're clearly not actually listening to them but instead of an AI voice is just plain insulting.

If you're in a pickle, use a translation app on your phone and ask the person you're trying to converse with to speak into it as well. At least then it becomes a communal attempt at conversing and you appear to be actively trying.

The 'demo' in the presentation made me want to vomit with how obnoxious it was.
How is it insulting? Your idea of communication is having someone talk into your phone rather than something more fluid like a live translation?

Talking into the iPhone microphone is not insulting but doing the same with the AirPods microphone is, I don't get it.
 
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I tried this a couple days ago on my iPhone 16 Pro Max and while the two languages I wanted, "English" and "German" were shown as downloaded, they obviously weren't. According to ChatGPT each language pack should be around 100mb. So around 200mb. But when I checked how much storage "Translate" took, it was only 10.2mb total! So, something's not quite working right. Now that my iPhone Air has arrived, I repeated the experiment and get the same result - those languages show as downloaded, but storage doesn't account for them and the instant translation simply doesn't work - in my ears, Siri keeps telling me I need to download language packs! Half-baked crap. But I guess that's why it's labeled "beta"?
 
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I tried this a couple days ago on my iPhone 16 Pro Max and while the two languages I wanted, "English" and "German" were shown as downloaded, they obviously weren't. According to ChatGPT each language pack should be around 100mb. So around 200mb. But when I checked how much storage "Translate" took, it was only 10.2mb total! So, something's not quite working right. Now that my iPhone Air has arrived, I repeated the experiment and get the same result - those languages show as downloaded, but storage doesn't account for them and the instant translation simply doesn't work - in my ears, Siri keeps telling me I need to download language packs! Half-baked crap. But I guess that's why it's labeled "beta"?
I believe the language packs are counted as "system data" (which you can see in the iOS settings), which makes sense given that live translation not only works in the Translate app. Adding a language seems to consume about 1-1.5 GB.
 
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Apple plans to add Italian, Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (simplified) support later this year.

You, or Apple, mean Mandarin.

Chinese (simplified) is a written style (modernized Hanzi) not a spoken dialect.

Taiwan uses traditional Hanzi but speaks Mandarin.

Hong Kong uses traditional Hanzi but speaks Cantonese.
 
This was exactly what I tried. I sat in front of a tv playing something and turned on live translation. It worked.
It kind of worked. I put on a French movie and it translated enough of it that maybe you could follow what was being said. But between the lag, all voices being the same, and the mistakes reading the subtitles was far superior.

I also tried it with a YouTube video of people having a slow conversation in French and there it was great.

Oh, and you have to have the audio physically playing as far as I know, so you can't do this on a plane or train without disturbing those around you.
 
I believe the language packs are counted as "system data" (which you can see in the iOS settings), which makes sense given that live translation not only works in the Translate app. Adding a language seems to consume about 1-1.5 GB.
Maybe so, but the fact remains that even after I remove and re-add English and German to the downloaded/off-line languages, when I try to do live translation (hold both AirPod Pros by the stem), Siri tells me that Live Translation requires the downloading of languages. What else can I do?

I don't know if this is relevant, but I'm currently in Germany - but my Apple ID/Account are US-region. I think I read somewhere that live translation isn't available in Europe yet? But Siri's nagging about downloading languages even though I have is still a defect.
 
It’s so wierd they attached the feature to the AirPods when all the actual translations are all done on the iPhone.
Lowering the volume of the person speaking while translating is a key to the experience and that processing is done on the Airpods.
 
It’s so wierd they attached the feature to the AirPods when all the actual translations are all done on the iPhone.

They could just have marketed this as an Apple Intelligence feature, that way they probably wouldn’t have failed to comply with DMA and were ready for EU rollout.

Of course they also would have needed to add some relevant languages from that region, which Apple failed to do with Siri for a Decade.

It’s cheaper for Apple to blame regulators that catch up with Google with translations
If you want to do it on your phone without AirPods, you could do it last year and probably three years ago. Just download the "Translate" app from the app store and explore.

The whole POINT of what's new in this version is the smoothness and efficiency which derives from using the ANC and in-ear speech, rather than turn-taking with a phone.
 
I tried this a couple days ago on my iPhone 16 Pro Max and while the two languages I wanted, "English" and "German" were shown as downloaded, they obviously weren't. According to ChatGPT each language pack should be around 100mb. So around 200mb. But when I checked how much storage "Translate" took, it was only 10.2mb total! So, something's not quite working right. Now that my iPhone Air has arrived, I repeated the experiment and get the same result - those languages show as downloaded, but storage doesn't account for them and the instant translation simply doesn't work - in my ears, Siri keeps telling me I need to download language packs! Half-baked crap. But I guess that's why it's labeled "beta"?
Are you looking in the Translate app, or in the UI that's pulled up by the AirPods?

The whole user interaction remains a bit clumsy (I guess it will be fixed over the next year) and it's easy to get confused, either thinking you have the data (you don't, you have it in Translate.app. not the different model needed for the AirPods) OR not realizing you needed to download both languages of interest (so eg French AND English) in the AirPods UI.
 
Even as an American, it drives me crazy that Apple is to cravenly xenophobic that they can’t seem to expand the list of languages. If they translated every language that their own damn employees speak, they’d at least be competitive with Chrome and all of the translator-specific devices. I regularly go to dinner with folks from the office in Prague - do they have Czech translation, even in Safari? Nope! No better in Denmark or number of economically successful countries, either. Such a stain on the company :-(
Once they get to the top 40 languages in the world then you are at like 97% of the planet can be translated. Google is at 49 languages.
 
Maybe so, but the fact remains that even after I remove and re-add English and German to the downloaded/off-line languages, when I try to do live translation (hold both AirPod Pros by the stem), Siri tells me that Live Translation requires the downloading of languages. What else can I do?

I don't know if this is relevant, but I'm currently in Germany - but my Apple ID/Account are US-region. I think I read somewhere that live translation isn't available in Europe yet? But Siri's nagging about downloading languages even though I have is still a defect.
No idea what might be causing this. Have you checked whether the download was actually completed (you can also go into the storage settings and compare before/after)? Worked without any issues for me. I'm in the US though, but AFAIK you should be able to use it in the EU if you have a US-based Apple ID.
 
People should study hard rather than using machine to do the job effortlessly.
Have you ever tried to speak with French in France? You'll ask them in English and they respond you in fluent French :')

(and I speak Czech, English, German and a bit of Danish so don't lecture me about learning languages. I would like to but I won't manage all the EU languages even if I would try to, I'm not that gifted).
 
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