Google just announced, that the minimum requirements for local models will be 12GB of RAM. It's going to be interesting how Apple will explain this to buyers of the current 17 series and last year Pro iPhones 🙊.
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iOS 27: Dedicated Siri App to Include Auto-Deleting Chats Feature
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knappeduivel
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turbineseaplane
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A great post and point.
I would just add the privacy is ultimately about respect for the user and their preferences.
Respecting our own data and how that is used should be a too priority.
More like:
Siri:'What chats? I cannot find any records of our conversations.'
Me: 'Yes we have I can see them in the chat history!'
Siri: 'Here's what I found on the web:'
Apple Intelligence is not a chatbot while Gemini is. You can’t really compare the 2.
Doesn’t that requirement pertain to Gemini Intelligence and Android phones? Maybe I am misreading it.
Google Details Strict Hardware Requirements for Gemini Intelligence on Android
Gemini Intelligence, the upcoming agentic AI system designed to automate various actions on Android devices, will require at least 12GB of RAM and high-end mobile chips.
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DavidMalcolm
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It’ll be interesting to see how useful (if at all) a Siri chatbot can be. Personally I made a chatGPT account asked it a few questions and got wrong answers and decided I’d just google information (though now Google is filled with AI slop even on websites.)
Some people talk about doing super powerful things with AI but most of the time these just end up being proof of concept prototypes, that can work for a recorded demo video but aren’t useful broadly.
For image generation I already can do that in photoshop or affinity myself by compositing images with whatever I want. I don’t really want to create something a user could mistake for a real photo that isn’t real.
I’m just not sure what honest work I would actually want to use a chatbot for.
Some people talk about doing super powerful things with AI but most of the time these just end up being proof of concept prototypes, that can work for a recorded demo video but aren’t useful broadly.
For image generation I already can do that in photoshop or affinity myself by compositing images with whatever I want. I don’t really want to create something a user could mistake for a real photo that isn’t real.
I’m just not sure what honest work I would actually want to use a chatbot for.
That's true. My point is, that at least with current technology, you need a certain amount of RAM to run useful models locally. 8 GB very likely won't be enough. Of course you can always offload the computation to the cloud. But that always means sending private data with every request.
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knappeduivel
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Samplasion
macrumors 6502a
Yeah, what's up with that, anyway? iOS 2.7? Of all the placements to put the background in, they chose the most confusing.
wanha
macrumors 68030
This article mentions it, too:
In the Settings panel for the new Siri app, "users will be able to choose to keep conversations for 30 days, one year, or forever," says Gurman, based on his sources. A similar feature can already be found in the Messages app's Settings.
tennisproha
macrumors 68020
AI chatbot history is contextually useful the longer it's used. The restrictions should be placed the chat history being encrypted on device via iCloud, not auto-deleted.