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iOS 27 Finally Unlinks Alarm Volume From Your iPhone Ringer

mattopotamus said:
I think the problem is people are watching a video and turn the volume low and forget to turn it up. If that happens, your alarm volume follows suit.
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In the current iOS, under Ringtones and Alerts, you can toggle off "Change with Buttons" and use the nearby slider to maintain whatever static volume you want. That's what I've done for years. My phone is always in silent mode, but alarms still sound, which I'm sure is an issue for some use cases.

Having your alarm clock in your pocket at the theater requires some knowledge of how things work, but I've always turned off the phone at something truly serious, like a live theater performance, just in case things don't work the way I thought (or thought I learned) since the last iOS changes.
 
zarmanto said:
Seriously overdue feature. I've been anno --



Hol-up, now... Wait-wot? (Double-click, right-click, drag down to "Search the web for suchlike"...)

Huh. I just learned a new rarely used word. Fancy that!
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On a Mac or iPhone you can just highlight the word and select Look Up.
 
Interesting this took this long since many people have their phone on vibrate anyway.

I haven’t looked back since they gave the option for volume buttons to control either media volume or ringer volume.
 
Finally some useful innovation after 20 years of iOS releases.

Now if only they can find a way to implement Slide to Stop for the watchOS Sleep alarm.
 
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CharlesShaw said:
In the current iOS, under Ringtones and Alerts, you can toggle off "Change with Buttons" and use the nearby slider to maintain whatever static volume you want. That's what I've done for years. My phone is always in silent mode, but alarms still sound, which I'm sure is an issue for some use cases.

Having your alarm clock in your pocket at the theater requires some knowledge of how things work, but I've always turned off the phone at something truly serious, like a live theater performance, just in case things don't work the way I thought (or thought I learned) since the last iOS changes.
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That is also what I do, but was providing an example of how easy it is for people to accidentally silent their alarms.
 
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I worked around this by having an automation which drops my ringtone volume at night and back up again in the morning.

it's actually part of a more complex shortcut that's triggered by my phone being connected to, and disconnected from, charging.

I only use my phone as an alarm clock when travelling, but it solved my issue. I may try using the new iOS 27 way, although it would mean that daytime timers may end up too quiet.

I'll just check whether the new alarm volume can be altered in shortcuts .... <please pretend to wait while I check>

Nope!
 
adrianlondon said:
I worked around this by having an automation which drops my ringtone volume at night and back up again in the morning.

it's actually part of a more complex shortcut that's triggered by my phone being connected to, and disconnected from, charging.

I only use my phone as an alarm clock when travelling, but it solved my issue. I may try using the new iOS 27 way, although it would mean that daytime timers may end up too quiet.

I'll just check whether the new alarm volume can be altered in shortcuts .... <please pretend to wait while I check>

Nope!
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Speaking of shortcuts. Weren't we supposed to be able to talk to siri and have it do the leg work for us? Maybe another one of those "coming soon" features?

On the beta, and asked siri today to create a shortcut. It told me it cannot do that and provided the steps. Seems odd that it knows exactly what to do, but will not set it up for me.
 
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mattopotamus said:
Speaking of shortcuts. Weren't we supposed to be able to talk to siri and have it do the leg work for us? Maybe another one of those "coming soon" features?
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It works, but only within the limits of the shortcut actions itself. I asked Siri to create my alarm volume shortcut and it just created one changing the "ringtone and alert volume". I told it to do a proper job and it said it couldn't adjust any volumes independently.

So, it tried, but offered nothing over just searching the actions list oneself.

You kind of need to know how to write Shortcuts already in order to phrase the request so that the still-pretty-dumb Siri can understand it.
 
PsykX said:
This is one of the rare things where I would prefer the Android implementation

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Even that wouldn't necessarily go far enough to fix one of my long standing issues.

I sometimes listen to either audio books or various YouTubers' commentaries while I drive, and whenever I stop (such as to get gas) I find that there is a high probability that a different app -- usually the Music app, but not always -- will pick up the play signal from my car when I get back on the road, instead of what I was actually listening to.

This in-and-of-itself might not seem like it belongs in a conversation about volume levels... except that for some reason, I have to crank up the volume from 18 to like 40 or 50 on my radio when I'm listening to most anything other than music. Which of course means that when the Music app picks up the play signal... yeah; it's painful. My ears have been assaulted by this issue more times than I can count, and my knob-turning reflexes have become distinctly well honed.

(And yes... I've reported the issue to Apple via the Feedback app.)
 
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platinumaqua said:
Last feature I want about alarms after this change is custom snooze times.
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This is possible.

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My superpower is that I am one of those people that don't even need an alarm. You tell me to be somewhere at 5 am, I'll automatically wake up at 4 am or whatever time is needed to be there 👀
 
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contacos said:
My superpower is that I am one of those people that don't even need an alarm. You tell me to be somewhere at 5 am, I'll automatically wake up at 4 am or whatever time is needed to be there 👀
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I'm reasonably certain that anyone can train themselves to do that. The issue is, most people have no real desire to do so. (Myself included.)
 
zarmanto said:
I'm reasonably certain that anyone can train themselves to do that. The issue is, most people have no real desire to do so. (Myself included.)
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But it's a much better feeling in the morning. One time, I was actually woken up by the alarm on a work day and I was like omg this is how people normally feel every day?! Felt like someone dropped a piano on my head (exaggerated)
 
contacos said:
But it's a much better feeling in the morning. One time, I was actually woken up by the alarm on a work day and I was like omg this is how people normally feel every day?! Felt like someone dropped a piano on my head (exaggerated)
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Oh, I'm sure it's a much better experience, and I commend you. But don't misunderstand me; I'm not saying that other people don't want to wake up easily and get wherever they're going on time and with ease.

I'm saying that most people do not feel incentivized to exercise the self-discipline and commitment required to 1) get into bed at a reasonable hour, 2) resist the miniature screen after getting in bed, and 3) train themselves to set their mental alarm clock in the first place.

Most would passively choose instead to get that small endorphin hit before falling into a fitful sleep, and let the alarm clock remind them to get their butt in gear in the morning.

The exception that effectively demonstrates my point is pretty nearly any young child on Christmas Day... when they wake up mommy and daddy long before the sun rises. They're properly incentivized on that day more than any other.
 
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