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iOS 27 Will Let You Pick Claude or Gemini Instead of ChatGPT for Apple Intelligence

jimbobb24 said:
The differences between these are meaningless on phone. The trivial distinctions only become apparent in heavy testing or environments that are complicated. Every AI since 2024 can handle anything people need on a phone....except Apples apparently.
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I disagree. Gemini has been very rough on my pixel 9 pro. It fails on things basic like weather, timers, alarms, and dictation. These were all things that Google assistant was rock solid at.

It's a mix, though. Gemini sometimes excels, leaving me wowed. The other day while driving, it gave me a detailed explanation on how overinflated tires on my model of car can cause a different kind of TPMS warning. I was truly impressed with it's conversational way of presenting my info (and that it asked me to clarify with a few additional questions).

It's bizarre. I hope it's growing pains and it only gets better, but the AI age has been wildly inconsistent so far on Google's "flagship" phone from not so long ago.
 
NT1440 said:
They need to not get sued for locking you into just Siri, hence the extensions. It’s a law thing, nothing to do with whatever capabilities the overhauled Siri will have on its own or not.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, I don’t use any AI’s.
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Let’s hope. I use Claude, ChatGPT & Gemini and like them all. I’d be very happy though if I had help with my personal data from a privacy preserving Siri.
 
bluecoast said:
Let’s hope. I use Claude, ChatGPT & Gemini and like them all. I’d be very happy though if I had help with my personal data from a privacy preserving Siri.
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My only interest in the field is that Apple is building out a privacy-first platform that will likely fulfill the needs of 90% of users. The rest are thinly veiled military industrial complex projects, which goes for these data centers as well (someone is going to need the compute when the bubble bursts, so let’s finish building the total surveillance infrastructure under the guise of them being for business models that don’t have any attempt at even appearing financially viable).
 
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As long as they don’t include Meta’s garbage… it’s bad enough that sheep all over the world use Zuck’s spyware on a daily basis and brag about it. We don’t want his garbage “AI” on our phones.
 
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jimbobb24 said:
The differences between these are meaningless on phone. The trivial distinctions only become apparent in heavy testing or environments that are complicated. Every AI since 2024 can handle anything people need on a phone....except Apples apparently.
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I don’t understand.
Proceed to the route.

- Siri
 
So is Siri going to be an on-device Gemini nano and then it punts to Gemini on Google's servers rather than Apple's private cloud compute Gemini servers? Only when using an extension? Or will it do it when it doesn't know the answer like how it punts to ChatGPT now? This is going to be confusing.
 
surferfb said:
I wonder if there will be a way to link your personal instructions to the version of Claude/Gemini on your phone.
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Sort of like this?
My favorite part is his request for it to not hallucinate...

Oh Marc ... if only it were so easy


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This illustrates quite well that AI chats are essentially just glorified search engines. In the past, you chose a default search engine on your phone. Now you’ll be choosing a default AI chat. Apple will once again make a deal with whichever AI chat is the most popular. It’s actually a very smart move by Apple not to jump headfirst into the AI hype train.
 
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Sometimes you just have to count your blessings. We don’t have an AI named Buford, or Mabel. And that’s a good thing.
 
Sami13496 said:
This illustrates quite well that AI chats are essentially just glorified search engines. In the past, you chose a default search engine on your phone. Now you’ll be choosing a default AI chat. Apple will once again make a deal with whichever AI chat is the most popular. It’s actually a very smart move by Apple not to jump headfirst into the AI hype train.
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If you think that then you have not used them
 
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NT1440 said:
My only interest in the field is that Apple is building out a privacy-first platform that will likely fulfill the needs of 90% of users. The rest are thinly veiled military industrial complex projects, which goes for these data centers as well (someone is going to need the compute when the bubble bursts, so let’s finish building the total surveillance infrastructure under the guise of them being for business models that don’t have any attempt at even appearing financially viable).
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It's hard at this point, to distinguish genuine technical advances from the hype.

And it's hard to ignore already very rich founders laying off people claiming that 'AI is helping us to work smarter'.
 
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CouldBeWorse said:
I’d love to be able to choose an option where everything is done on device even if that means some features are disabled.
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You can do that already. It’s not like Tim Cook will come to your house pointing a gun at your head for not being online. That’s what Mark Facebook is more likely to do.
 
Let's not forget Google just signed a deal with the government to use Gemini AI for basically anything they please
 
It would be really cool if Siri could use models run on my Mac using Ollama.

Not sending every query to the cloud for ad tracking would be a plus.
 
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