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iOS 4.1 Beta's got full AVRCP!!!

Stay Tuned said:
Perhaps an explanation of what in the hell AVRCP is might make your thread a bit more easy to understand?
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If you don't know what AVRCP is, chances are you don't use it.

By that I mean even if you didn't know the term. If you had a bluetooth headset, chances are you'd end up searching why you can only adjust the volume, play/pause, and not skip tracks. Which would've led to the answer.
 
I'm not usually one of these people but. Thanks apple. Your about a year late on this. :rolleyes: don't ask me why they didn't put this in the same time ey added a2dp
 
Never understood why this was withheld in the past given it's a well defined standard. You can't even really make a battery or CPU argument once they did A2DP. If the device can handle volume/play/pause, why not track skip?

Ah well, better late then never I guess. It is a pure joy being able to have full control via BT and now we can look forward to even more advance BT devices from 3rd parties.
 
Squid7085 said:
It's a feature that reads incoming texts over the speakers and allows you to respond using voice prompts, something the iPhone doesn't support. Hence Text Messaging OVER Bluetooth. But either way, Texting and Driving is only as stupid as the person doing it, thats the way I see it, be smart about it.
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Exactly! Thats why I drive with my knees and text with both of my hands. Because I can in rural Iowa!
 
How do you get the controls on your steering wheel to work??? I just tried and they don't, just the volume not the track changer. I plug mine into the car using a AUX cable, but I do have bluetooth in the car too.

Thanks!!
 
Stay Tuned said:
Perhaps an explanation of what in the hell VARCP is might make your thread a bit more easy to understand?
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Let me guess. You still use the white headphones that Steve gave you. And when they break you goto an Apple store and get them replaced?:p

You're tied to your device they way Apple likes. :D

Don't worry AVRCP is for people who think different and should have been part of the first gen iPhone. It is four generations late.
 
brayhite said:
As your username says, give me a break. Text messaging while driving is only being attempted to be enforced because it's a measurable act, much like drunk driving or reckless driving. If a cop passes me or glances at me and notices my repeatedly looking down and away from the road, I could be a whole number of things: eating, changing the radio station, trying to flick a bug off me, looking at my GPS, etc. So when I get pulled over, how is he going to accurately check what was happening without relying completely on my word?

He can't. But he can look at your Sent messages and see if you just recently sent a text.

Texting while driving is as dangerous as doing all of the above. They're just singling this out because they (think they) can enforce it. But they can't. Especially when you have phones that do much MORE than just text e.g. GPS or controlling the music playing. So even if I do have a message recently sent within the past two minutes, I could've just been changing the song at the exact moment he saw me, therefore I got a ticket for nothing.

And to just add to this whole rant, don't tell me that it's more dangerous than drunk driving. Drunk driving has many MANY more consequences than texting while driving. Texting is a very temporary impairment, often 10 seconds at most. Drunk driving is the entire duration of controlling the vehicle. That's like saying walking to get the mail gives you more risk of getting skin cancer than laying out by the pool for thirty minutes.
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In that 10 seconds you could have wiped out an entire bus stop full of people while you're not looking at the road. Or some kid that runs out to get a ball.

A drunk may well be looking at the road, his reactions will be impaired but he will at least attempt to break. You on the other hand won't notice until you've run somebody over and probably killed them because you didn't even see them in front of you. Stop fighting the "I'm being persecuted cause" and use some common sense, ANYTHING that distracts you from driving the car is dangerous.
 
jutte64 said:
soo as i asked before this post got totally side tracked, does the 4.1 take care of the bluetooth audio sync problem??
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I don't think so. I can't tell as I've never experienced the BT problem but from from what I've been reading on this site and the Apple developers forum, the BT problems aren't universal (any more than the prox sensor) and may be related to some combination of restore/backup/sync with existing vs. new BT connections before/after the upgrade.

If you haven't tried this already, make sure to 'forget' all BT devices, backup to iTunes, restore the phone via a full erase and new firmware update, re-pair with your BT device, then re-store and re-sync with iTunes.
 
Funny given whats posted I would have thought this new feature would have enabled fast forward and rewind in my sony S9 HD bluetooth headphones. I still only have volume control.

Oh well, I am used to it now.
 
3gs or 4?

bmwhd said:
Or at least better AVRCP implementation.

I suspected as much reviewing the new API list but just validated: Skip forward and back now working from bluetooth headsets!! BINGO!!!!
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bmwhd, was this tested using a 3gs or iphone 4?
Would love to have avrcp working on 3gs, could then get rid of music controls on jailbreak and have a nice 'official' firmware then.
cheers,
dean
 
bmwhd said:
I don't think so. I can't tell as I've never experienced the BT problem but from from what I've been reading on this site and the Apple developers forum, the BT problems aren't universal (any more than the prox sensor) and may be related to some combination of restore/backup/sync with existing vs. new BT connections before/after the upgrade.

If you haven't tried this already, make sure to 'forget' all BT devices, backup to iTunes, restore the phone via a full erase and new firmware update, re-pair with your BT device, then re-store and re-sync with iTunes.
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well i didnt do a restore on my 3g but when i did get my iphone4 i did set it up at new, and i havent been able to get it to sync my music since day one. i even cleared my radios BT memory before i started so that way i would be working with a clean slate on both ends. its just weird the phone part works fine but i cant get the BT audio to work. i dont know just have to wait till 4.1 comes out and if doesnt work time for a trip to an apple store i guess.
 
brayhite said:
As your username says, give me a break. Text messaging while driving is only being attempted to be enforced because it's a measurable act, much like drunk driving or reckless driving. If a cop passes me or glances at me and notices my repeatedly looking down and away from the road, I could be a whole number of things: eating, changing the radio station, trying to flick a bug off me, looking at my GPS, etc. So when I get pulled over, how is he going to accurately check what was happening without relying completely on my word?

He can't. But he can look at your Sent messages and see if you just recently sent a text.

Texting while driving is as dangerous as doing all of the above. They're just singling this out because they (think they) can enforce it. But they can't. Especially when you have phones that do much MORE than just text e.g. GPS or controlling the music playing. So even if I do have a message recently sent within the past two minutes, I could've just been changing the song at the exact moment he saw me, therefore I got a ticket for nothing.

And to just add to this whole rant, don't tell me that it's more dangerous than drunk driving. Drunk driving has many MANY more consequences than texting while driving. Texting is a very temporary impairment, often 10 seconds at most. Drunk driving is the entire duration of controlling the vehicle. That's like saying walking to get the mail gives you more risk of getting skin cancer than laying out by the pool for thirty minutes.
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You are a friggen idiot. Go take a ride down the highway and close your eyes for 10 seconds. Let's hope you kill only yourself so that everybody else can make it home.
 
deano72 said:
bmwhd, was this tested using a 3gs or iphone 4?
Would love to have avrcp working on 3gs, could then get rid of music controls on jailbreak and have a nice 'official' firmware then.
cheers,
dean
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I'm only testing on an IP4 at the moment though I've not seen anything in the APIs that would indicate it won't work on the 3G or 3GS. It's not BT hardware dependent.
 
jutte64 said:
soo as i asked before this post got totally side tracked, does the 4.1 take care of the bluetooth audio sync problem??
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It looks like the auto manufactures are going to have to update their 'apps' (stereo system firmware) to accommodate all the new and modified APIs in iOS 4.0 and later.

Basic headset profile is working now inclusive of next/prev track. More advanced BT sync functions of some of the car stereos are fragged at the moment.
 
brayhite said:
As your username says, give me a break. Text messaging while driving is only being attempted to be enforced because it's a measurable act, much like drunk driving or reckless driving. If a cop passes me or glances at me and notices my repeatedly looking down and away from the road, I could be a whole number of things: eating, changing the radio station, trying to flick a bug off me, looking at my GPS, etc. So when I get pulled over, how is he going to accurately check what was happening without relying completely on my word?

He can't. But he can look at your Sent messages and see if you just recently sent a text.

Texting while driving is as dangerous as doing all of the above. They're just singling this out because they (think they) can enforce it. But they can't. Especially when you have phones that do much MORE than just text e.g. GPS or controlling the music playing. So even if I do have a message recently sent within the past two minutes, I could've just been changing the song at the exact moment he saw me, therefore I got a ticket for nothing.

And to just add to this whole rant, don't tell me that it's more dangerous than drunk driving. Drunk driving has many MANY more consequences than texting while driving. Texting is a very temporary impairment, often 10 seconds at most. Drunk driving is the entire duration of controlling the vehicle. That's like saying walking to get the mail gives you more risk of getting skin cancer than laying out by the pool for thirty minutes.
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I would say that BAD drivers cause as many or more accidents as drunk driving or texting... It's WAYYYY too easy to get a license in this country, and once you get it you basically can drive like an idiot and never have to recertify your skills... As an avid motorcyclist, I see soooooo many horrible drivers doing stupid things, making bad decisions, being impatient or oblivious to things around them, not understanding the right of way rules, etc. Everyone acts like their car is their little fortress and they own the road and are the only ones on it and have the RIGHT to do whatever they want... And I swear that turn signals must come optional on cars these days because NOBODY every seems to bother to signal lane changes on the highway anymore, and god forbid anyone turn their head to check their blind spot before turning or changing lanes...
 
2002cbr600f4i said:
I would say that BAD drivers cause as many or more accidents as drunk driving or texting... It's WAYYYY too easy to get a license in this country, and once you get it you basically can drive like an idiot and never have to recertify your skills... As an avid motorcyclist, I see soooooo many horrible drivers doing stupid things, making bad decisions, being impatient or oblivious to things around them, not understanding the right of way rules, etc. Everyone acts like their car is their little fortress and they own the road and are the only ones on it and have the RIGHT to do whatever they want... And I swear that turn signals must come optional on cars these days because NOBODY every seems to bother to signal lane changes on the highway anymore, and god forbid anyone turn their head to check their blind spot before turning or changing lanes...
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Folks, could I respectfully ask you take the texting discussion to another thread? I'd like to keep this open for issues with AVRCP.
 
In short, put the GD phone down, eyes on the road, hands on the wheel and stop being an idiot! If you need to make a call or reply to a text, pull over... Crap happens on the road in a split second... 10 seconds is a
LONG time to not be paying attention to what's going on around you!
 
2002cbr600f4i said:
And I swear that turn signals must come optional on cars these days because NOBODY every seems to bother to signal lane changes on the highway anymore, and god forbid anyone turn their head to check their blind spot before turning or changing lanes...
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amen
 
bmwhd said:
Folks, could I respectfully ask you take the texting discussion to another thread? I'd like to keep this open for issues with AVRCP.
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Agreed... Anyhow, glad to see that the capability is coming... The BT stack's missing profiles and features has been one of the weakest spots on the iOS so far and I really wish they'd open it up more so we can interface with more devices...
 
I am looking forward to this function with the 4.1! I have a Parrot system but hate that I can not skip forward or backward.

BTW, what is the usual lead time for actual release once a Beta has been released?
 
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