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iOS 4.3 Requires Password Reentry for In App Purchases
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Maybe in the next bout of evolution most humans will do that, for now its few and far between who actually can be called parents more like baby factories.
So, can this "feature" be turned off or time modified? It seems as though my convenience is being thrown overboard as a result of a tiny minority of micreants that gamed the system to get past their parents' wishes.
I understand there are plenty of kids smart enough to bypass nearly any light convenience security such as a 15 minute delay, but need we all live the lowest common denominator lifestyle because of a few uncaught and unenforced juvinille delinquents?
We're not talking "accidental" downloads or purchases here. We're talking about intentional acts contrary to the wishes of the parents, within a narrow 15 minute window and only after a password has been used to begin with.
Furthermore why should the 95%+ of kids who actually follow rules be inconvenienced either?
Just asking.
This whole thing is an over reaction to some tiny set of overbearing nanny-state whiners. Kinda like the Jobs dream house that will never be built before he kicks the bucket.
Rocketman
I understand there are plenty of kids smart enough to bypass nearly any light convenience security such as a 15 minute delay, but need we all live the lowest common denominator lifestyle because of a few uncaught and unenforced juvinille delinquents?
We're not talking "accidental" downloads or purchases here. We're talking about intentional acts contrary to the wishes of the parents, within a narrow 15 minute window and only after a password has been used to begin with.
Furthermore why should the 95%+ of kids who actually follow rules be inconvenienced either?
Just asking.
This whole thing is an over reaction to some tiny set of overbearing nanny-state whiners. Kinda like the Jobs dream house that will never be built before he kicks the bucket.
Rocketman
Don't complain to us. Talk to Apple. They're the ones with the silly global control flags.
And having to reenter a password in order to buy the first in-app sale in the first 15 minutes is hardly a horrible PITA. How many times do you do that in a day?
It has nothing to do with smart kids "gaming the system".
The reason it came up is because people would give their two, three, four year old kid, niece or nephew, little brother or sister, their iOS device to play with... right after they downloaded a child app for them. That is perfectly reasonable.
Unfortunately, some child app writers quickly figured out that they could take advantage of people forgetting (or never knowing) about the 15 minute password timeout.
So the child sees something pretty and clicks on it without being old enough to know that it is an in-app purchase... and we're talking up to $100 to buy more game options.
Apple themselves have acknowledged this was a problem in two public ways: first, by refunding people who got caught in thsi. Second, by adding this new password request.
Are you a parent? Just curious because you act as if you know all about how parents are raising their children. If you are so impatient that you can't reenter a simple pw for the sake of security then perhaps your parents should be blamed as well.
You are right. Watching your brother's kids a few weekends = raising a child 24/7
I hope Apple keeps this feature just to wind you up
You do NOT understand fully yet. I agreed with Apple. I have 6 years son who love play "Angry Bird" If my son and I go on long travel in drive. He must be sit in backseat due safety. My son want borrow my iPhone for play game or watch movie to keep child quiet for while. Impossible to monitor what he doing with my iphone in backseat while I drive. Sometime, Angry Bird game pop window and ask for purchase addition such Mighty Bird or Seasonal game. That is how protect to not buy it without my persission first.
You need to be think before you say complain something.
You need to be think before you say complain something.
Jeez. You guys are taking this issue to the furthest extent.
I mean, yeah it's a little annoying to re enter a password. If you run the new iOS - you're going to have to enter a new password - so... deal with it. It's a simple solution to make sure that an accidental purchase is avoided and it has absolutely nothing to do with the way that his parents raised him.
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Sounds fair enough to me. Good thing I rarely conduct in-app purchases or it would definitely be annoying as some has mentioned.
Sounds fair enough to me. Good thing I rarely conduct in-app purchases or it would definitely be annoying as some has mentioned.
So I don't have children and my security measures mean no-one has access to my MBP. Why isn't there a way out of this for people like me?
Abortion would have been an option at the time, but I guess it's too late.
Good thing none of the complainers ever were children!
It isn't that bad if your demand is set at minimum - for an outdated device
I would say it's not just for people with kids either. What if you download an App and then a buddy of yours decides to pick up your device and proceed to download in-app items. It's added protection.
Everyone wants to complain about something like this until it happens to them and then they realize how helpful it can be.
Everyone wants to complain about something like this until it happens to them and then they realize how helpful it can be.
Then how will my kids browse for free apps without me entering my password?
I like the current system better than your suggestion.
Actually we are talking about accidental downloads here. A kid is playing a game. He can buy a house with coins, he can buy coins and other things with smurf berries, and he can buy smurf berries with dollars. It is easy for a young child to have trouble understanding that the coins are virtual, but the dollars are real.
Apple, is it that HARD to have an option to turn this off? I understand the need for requiring re-entry of password by default, but it's a pain if I need to enter password for multiple times when I update apps one by one
No, not hard to make it optional, but that defeats the purpose, hence no option!
There are plenty of annoyances in everyday life where a few cause many inconveniences.
A few idiots are hi-jacking and bombing planes, now we all have to be checked at the airport, in out sideways. OPTIONAL ! NO!
A few idiots drive too fast. Speed limits. OPTIONAL! NO!
Feel free to add to the list if you are still alive and entering a PW every now and then didn't kill you
People act as if they are buying or updating apps 24/7.
Oh Jeeze! Are you kidding me? Is there going to be an article for EVERY iOS 4.3 change? LMFAO this is a joke.
Cool story bro. Glad someone held a gun to your head forcing you to come into this thread and read its contents too. It would be a shame if you could just, you know, overlook it and move on with life.
So, let me get this straight, now we all have to be inconvenienced because a few irresponsible parents use their iOS device as their baby sitter?
This should be an optional setting, no reason to punish those who actually supervise their children! Not to mention those that have none.
This should be an optional setting, no reason to punish those who actually supervise their children! Not to mention those that have none.
Perhaps I am missing something
I could be wrong, but I thought that in order to create an apple account, you need not only an email address associated with the account, but a valid credit card as well. What I don't understand is where the parental responsibility lies in this scenario. From what I can tell, the problem is that kids are making purchases from their parents' accounts. How are they getting the passwords? If the phone is left on after a purchase and the issue is the timeout on the screen lock, then why aren't parents more cognizant of the fact that they need to lock their phones after a purchase? My point is that this is not and should not be Apple's problem. As a result of poor parenting, we are all now inconvenienced. Where does it end? Are all online retailers now going to implement some sort of time-lock re-authentication? Let's hope that they do, because those crazy kids might be buying stuff on Amazon or booking flights without their parents' knowledge. Oh wait, that's already happened. Unreal.
I could be wrong, but I thought that in order to create an apple account, you need not only an email address associated with the account, but a valid credit card as well. What I don't understand is where the parental responsibility lies in this scenario. From what I can tell, the problem is that kids are making purchases from their parents' accounts. How are they getting the passwords? If the phone is left on after a purchase and the issue is the timeout on the screen lock, then why aren't parents more cognizant of the fact that they need to lock their phones after a purchase? My point is that this is not and should not be Apple's problem. As a result of poor parenting, we are all now inconvenienced. Where does it end? Are all online retailers now going to implement some sort of time-lock re-authentication? Let's hope that they do, because those crazy kids might be buying stuff on Amazon or booking flights without their parents' knowledge. Oh wait, that's already happened. Unreal.
Simple. There's no notice that pops up saying "Warning, we're not going to ask for your password for another 15 minutes. Don't give this device to anyone else who might buy something with it."
People who don't spend a lot of time buying apps probably have never noticed or figured out why and when they're asked for their password.
Contrary to folk myths, the iPhone is NOT totally intuitive. There are lots of little secrets like this one.
It has nothing to do with poor parenting. As I pointed out above, lots of big brothers and sisters loan their phones to little brothers, nieces, etc all the time... and have the same problem.
It has everything to do with child app makers taking advantage of the not-so-well known password timeout.
Again, for those who are complaining about the change: how often do you buy an app, and then within 15 minutes buy a addon option?
THE CHANGE IS NOT ABOUT ASKING EACH TIME YOU BUY AN APP. IT'S ONLY REPEAT ONLY WHEN DOING AN IN-APP PURCHASE RIGHT AFTER BUYING THE APP.