most people don't need to use simultaneous voice and data.... obviously you do... so yo can stay with at&t, and not bug us on verizon
.... anyways
how long til you think we wil get the first t-mobile/sprint iphone rumor?
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most people don't need to use simultaneous voice and data.... obviously you do... so yo can stay with at&t, and not bug us on verizon
.... anyways
how long til you think we wil get the first t-mobile/sprint iphone rumor?
the carrier theft that has always bothered me is that the subsidy is built into a 2 year contract, so why doesn't my bill lower in price after 2 years?
Or, how about this, if I pay full price for the phone, why isn't my plan lower? The carrier doesn't need the subsidy.
unlimited data
i kept the unlimited data plan with AT&T. not because i was using it, but because i knew that we'd eventually have stuff like Facetime that works over 3G. last week, Skype came out with video calling over 3G. i've used it away from home and away from a wifi spot. it uses a lot of data quickly. Facetime will be the same way once it gets released to work on 3G.
also, i realize my iPad can work easily on wifi around the city when i am at the library or whatever, but having a mobile wifi hotspot means that i can use the GPS applications on my iPad via my iPhone as i am driving around. that's pretty nice to have the larger screen for GPS. also, my kids can use my iPad or a laptop in the car and i can have my iPhone plugged in to charge the whole time. unlimited data plans are going to be necessary in the very short order or folks will be paying overage charges or doing without.
i kept the unlimited data plan with AT&T. not because i was using it, but because i knew that we'd eventually have stuff like Facetime that works over 3G. last week, Skype came out with video calling over 3G. i've used it away from home and away from a wifi spot. it uses a lot of data quickly. Facetime will be the same way once it gets released to work on 3G.
also, i realize my iPad can work easily on wifi around the city when i am at the library or whatever, but having a mobile wifi hotspot means that i can use the GPS applications on my iPad via my iPhone as i am driving around. that's pretty nice to have the larger screen for GPS. also, my kids can use my iPad or a laptop in the car and i can have my iPhone plugged in to charge the whole time. unlimited data plans are going to be necessary in the very short order or folks will be paying overage charges or doing without.
I hope that if AT&T gets this, it won't charge $20 or more for the privilege. I could see maybe $5 a month with extra data (maybe 3-4 GB instead of 2).
Flashing new iphone
So since the new iphone from verizon doesnt have a sim card can other cellular companies such as metro pcs flash the iphone over
So since the new iphone from verizon doesnt have a sim card can other cellular companies such as metro pcs flash the iphone over
Give it up. Its not that you don't need it. You just don't have it. People on Verizon settle for this, as well as pathetically slow 3G, for the sake of decent (not good, not great, decent) cellular coverage near their home.
That's it's. They are trade offs. You decide what matters most and you make your choices. Adults understand this.
For me it matters most to have the best product available with the fastest 3G speeds, and that is and will remain the iPhone 4 on AT&T.
I have read so many of these forums over last few days. I don't usually comment, but it amazes me that AT&T people are so adament how terriable service is on Verizon.. Really? Everyone shoudl be happy that Verizon has the iPhone now. More choices.. period... I have a Droid and love it. Fantastic device. Will I get a iPhone? yep, becuase I choose to do so. So if your on AT&T and like your service.. cool.. keep it. Don't rain on our parade. I get text during phones calls all the time and text back while on phone calls. We all undrstand that on AT&T you can talk and do data. So what... That is the decision that we as the consumer make. Why is it as soon as someone says they are goign to Verizon from AT&T they get slammed , sure go to Verizon and accept a lesser iPhone, blah, blah.. People really.. This forum is about Apple products and sharing of info.
Okay off soap box.. slam me if you want.. I make a choice to stay with Verizon "because I choose to, and my precieved better quality network" My choice, not yours.
Love to all iPhone users eaither AT&T or Verizon!!!
Okay off soap box.. slam me if you want.. I make a choice to stay with Verizon "because I choose to, and my precieved better quality network" My choice, not yours.
Love to all iPhone users eaither AT&T or Verizon!!!
The biggest surprise is gonna be all those folks who run to verizon then realize they can t voice and at at the same time..lol they will think the iphone is broken.. then they will come crying back to at&t again.. the verizon iphone is not a good deal due to this huge network limitation..
You dont know what its like to talk on the iphone and perform data operations like web browsing at the same time..lol and you wont be able you use ur hotspot thingy while on the phone either...sad..
A factory unlocked iPhone just means it is unlocked to run on any carrier. That's it. Which features work or not depends on the SIM card inserted in the phone.
Again it's just a choice. You(as in AT&T carrier) have spotty connections, or dropped calls. But that doesn't mean in your area it doesn't suit you. Your choice. Again just becuase someone chooses Verizon doesn't mean it's bad. It means it suits thier needs. Signal Quality vs Calls/Data same time. Choice.. Hotspot is a whole nether thing. I dont need hotspot while on phone. Again choice.
I am very happy with my "choice". As it apears you are very "happy" with yours.
And this is not new just to the iPhone. All smart phones on Verizon as this same way.
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What I want to know is where all this AT&T love came from after years of hearing how great the iPhone would be on Verizon. I thought this place had a few AT&T fans but not nearly this many. It's interesting.
What I want to know is where all this AT&T love came from after years of hearing how great the iPhone would be on Verizon. I thought this place had a few AT&T fans but not nearly this many. It's interesting.
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And I use voice and data at the same time all the time but I think that feature is used very little by the average customer. I didn't even know how to do it until I saw the commercial about a year ago. All those years before I didn't know what I was missing. Hahaha
And I use voice and data at the same time all the time but I think that feature is used very little by the average customer. I didn't even know how to do it until I saw the commercial about a year ago. All those years before I didn't know what I was missing. Hahaha
If you look at past polls showing if ppl would leave AT&T for Verizon, over 50% said they would stay. In this forum, Verizon was the vocal minority....until now.
bad choice due too ignorance of how the phone can work and limitations of the verizon network.. which makes the phone less "smart"...lol its just not worth it to pay more and step down like that may as well get something with android in it
AT&T can't handle it.
The rest of the world can.
U.S. mobile operators suck. All of them. Each one sucks less or more depending on where you are, but none of them can be proud of their customer satisfaction ratings. Not a single one. Look at the annual Consumer Reports customer surveys. They are an effin' train wreck. Every single year.
Why is it ignorance to choose the carrier that works for you? The guy in the next cube has an iphone that is acting like an ipod. He has no service. A lot of places in the US just don't have the orange 3G color on their part of the map. I say get what you want. Who cares.
Well there are aslo microsoft fanboys out there.
If someone is a masokist then let him be
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I have talked to someone who works in customer service at O2 Germany (they have cheaper data plans that do not allow tethering and more expensive plans that do).
She told me the banned tethering on cheaper plans is _not_ because of higher data usage. There are many customers calling customer care because they don't get tethering to work. Maybe they have some problems with stupid drivers, handsets with buggy bluetooth implementations or whatever. Staff has to be trained. This customer service is simply too expensive to be covered in the cheaper data plan.
There are much less problems with internet access on smartphones (they are usually sold preconfigured with the right settings or customer service can easily send them the correct settings over the air and people who bring their own devices usually know what they are doing.)
She told me obviously everyone at O2 knows there are many people using tethering on cheaper plans even tough its not allowed. As long as they don't call customer service because of any issues with tethering (or because of the included megabytes being insufficient) O2 simply does not care.
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