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iOS 5 for iPhone 3GS?
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Wow! A reasonable person.
I get so annoyed with people bitching that Apple are evil for not supporting two year old phones cause some one might have bought it more recently (This annoys me cause in most cases it is from some one who has the phone not supported but has had it a while and isn't one of the ones affected but realizes it doesn't look as reasonable to whine that they phone they've had for 2 years isn't going to get support).
1. The phone is still two year old technology even if you bought it now.
2. Most people who bought it this recently don't really care, a smartphone isn't their biggest priority. The only person I know who bought a 3GS recently was dragged into getting a smartphone and figured for 50 dollars it was worth it. He doesn't really need or want much out of his phone honestly. Anything it does extra over his old dumbphone is gravy.
3. Most people who care will realize it is an old phone when they buy it and either decide that for their budget they can deal with older technology (and can understand it won't stay relevant for long) or they buy the newer one or even wait for the newest one to come out.
4. And the rare few who did buy one not realizing it was old and likely not to be supported for as long... do your research before buying first if how long an item is supported is that important to you that this would upset you. It wouldn't be hard to learn that it's an old phone. I'm sure the apple salesman will easily tell you that and tell you why maybe a 4 is worth that extra money!
And as for some one who had the phone since it was new... they supported it for 2 years with the new OS updates. Longer than most phones (my previous phones never got updates to the OS.... though to be fair they were all dumbphones, but they were still running some sort of customized OS). It still can do what you like it for.... if you want the newer features, you can get a newer phone with renewing your contract and you won't pay that much for it.
I certainly didn't gripe when they barely supported the 3G last year (and fully expected by this year it wouldn't be supported period. Sure, Apple was quicker than what I expected but judging from complaints on how badly the 3G ran iOS 4.0, it was not surprising at all they just gave up supporting it period before iOS 5.0).
I certainly expect the 4 will be barely if at all supported next year. Actually, I think I'm going to wait on 5 to see how fast it runs on the 4 (I know that iOS 3.0 did make my 3G noticeably slower, not intolerably slow but I did notice that it took longer to load apps and lagged a lot more).
The 3GS can handle at least some of iOS5's updates. Its not like the iPhone 4 is THAT much ahead in terms of raw specs.
Guess Apple really wants all of the 3GS owners to upgrade to iPhone 5, unfortunately looks like iOS 5 won't be compatible.
What makes you say that? The only thing that's really been "confirmed" is iCloud and automatic updating.
The 3GS can handle at least some of iOS5's updates. Its not like the iPhone 4 is THAT much ahead in terms of raw specs.
that's not the point.
look at it from a business standpoint and step into Apple's shoes.
The 3GS can handle at least some of iOS5's updates. Its not like the iPhone 4 is THAT much ahead in terms of raw specs.
The double amount of RAM will make a huge difference, and while yes the A4 is technically the same CPU and GPU as the 3GS, albeit on 1 chip and 200MHz faster, it's still faster. On a mobile device, 200MHz makes a hell of a difference, just look at the 3G trying to handle homescreen wallpapers compared to the 3GS. Processing all those little drop shadows behind the icons and text just took the 3G over the edge because it packed a low amount of RAM.
Apple is not microsoft or android-google. They are well known for supporting their products with the longest time and the best quality. They dont earn this reputation easily and i think they are not going to loose it. I believe protecting their reputation for products' support is Apple's business standpoint.
the 3GS came out in 2009 dude.. it's time to let it go no matter who you are. people usually upgrade their phones every 1-2 years anyways.
also, why are they going to slow themselves down by supporting outdated hardware?
If they're selling it, they should be support it, simple as that.
The hardware is not outdated and there would be no slow downs since architecture is the same pretty much.
Original iPhone: iOS 2.0, 3.0
iPhone 3G: iOS 3.0, 4.0
iPhone 3GS: iOS 4.0, ???
The other two phones received two major upgrades, it's reasonable to assume that the 3GS will as well.
Agreed. I can only think of one app where my 3GS struggles with performance. General performance is the same as the day I bought it.
iPhone 3G: iOS 3.0, 4.0
iPhone 3GS: iOS 4.0, ???
The other two phones received two major upgrades, it's reasonable to assume that the 3GS will as well.
Agreed. I can only think of one app where my 3GS struggles with performance. General performance is the same as the day I bought it.
You do realize Apple is well known for supporting devices tell the end of time? Honestly they are the only company you can bet will do this this.
Pretty much sums it up
whole point of the matter is that 3GS is currently being sold and advertised actively. It would suck to be a consumer not in the loop of "apple's shoes" and business tactics to realize that they can't enjoy the new features.
they won't be selling it once the next iPhone comes out... therefore, no reason to support it.
it will be the next-gen iPhone and the iPhone 4 at $99 once the new phone comes out
Apple stopped supporting the 3G in 2010, 2 years after it was released. this is what will happen:
the iPhone 3GS will probably get iOS5, but will lack many features.. which will lead to this forum being flooded with people crying (refer to: 3G getting 4.0 and not being able to add a background)
the iPhone 4 will get iOS5 and will lack some features.
can you answer something for me though?
i know that the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 aren't that much different inside, but they still are. retina display is one of the big things. so why the hell on earth are they going to release on OS on old hardware?
the retina display itself vs the old display just adds more junk to the OS. instead of people crying over twitter taking up lines of code (in the other thread lol), they should complain about this.
my 3GS lags in iOS 4
so honestly, I'm not going to upgrade to iOS 5 with this model, if the iOS works for it. I may upgrade to the next iPhone after all but that is another story all together.
I can't really see iOS 5 for the 3GS because of the ram issue, my 3GS runs iOS 4 rather poorly but This just my experience and speculation.
so honestly, I'm not going to upgrade to iOS 5 with this model, if the iOS works for it. I may upgrade to the next iPhone after all but that is another story all together.
I can't really see iOS 5 for the 3GS because of the ram issue, my 3GS runs iOS 4 rather poorly but This just my experience and speculation.
Well up until 1 year ago today Apple was still selling the iPhone 3G along side the iPhone 3GS (pre WWDC), how do you think those people feel that signed a 2 year contract on an iPhone 3G to only have iOS 4.0 released a few weeks later all the sudden make your phone run extremely slow? I don't think their happy, and does Apple want to repeat this again?
Apple is selling and advertising the iPhone 3GS running iOS 4.x, their not advertising that it will run iOS 5.0, so when you walk into a store today to buy an iPhone 3GS and you look at the spec sheet, those are the only features that Apple is promising to you, nothing more nothing less.
These are the features:http://www.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3gs/
These are the specs: http://www.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3gs/specs.html
And here comes the RAMfags.
Remember the iPad 1 has 256mb RAM the same as 3GS...
Will iPad 1 be left behind with iOS5?
By your logic, the iPhone 4 won't get iOS5 either, after all Apple is advertising it as running iOS4
Well with increasing multitasking capability, it will be an important feature.
I said the same thing on android devices when i said there isn't much of a difference between 512mb vs 1GB and boy was i wrong
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By your logic, the iPhone 4 won't get iOS5 either, after all Apple is advertising it as running iOS4
Agreed, they don't have to and its in their iPhone 4 EULA that we all signed when we bought our phones.
Section 1.
http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/iphone4.pdf
and if you review the iPad's EULA, Apple only promises 1 major OS upgrade
Section 1.
http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/iPadSoftwareLicense.pdf
Hardware & Software Product Agreements
http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it like this:
iPhone: iOS 1, iOS 2
iPhone 3G: iOS 2, iOS 3, iOS 4
iPhone 3GS: iOS 3, iOS 4
Yeah you're right. It was just a hunch, i think that iOS 5 on iPhone 3GS will likely be how iOS 4 was on iPhone 3G.
Well if you include the shipping version... almost. You're forgetting that iOS 3 was released for the original iPhone.