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iOS 5 for iPhone 3GS?
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iOS 4 had support for 4 and 3GS. it barely had any for the 3G
The same trend would continue
iOS 5 will have support for 5 and 4 with very limited(if any)support for the 3GS
The same trend would continue
iOS 5 will have support for 5 and 4 with very limited(if any)support for the 3GS
As others have said the A4 is just a higher clocked version of the chipset thats in the 3GS (basically). Aside from the RAM, they're not very different capability wise. Using the SGX535 for graphics in the A4 was a miscue I thought. It should have been the SGX540 or at least a higher clocked version of the 535. That will hold it back more than anything in my opinion. However since the 3GS is pushing less pixels, its not as big an issue with that phone.
3GS should handle iOS 5 just fine, but I could see apple purposely not including it just to make people buy a new phone.
3GS should handle iOS 5 just fine, but I could see apple purposely not including it just to make people buy a new phone.
I have my doubts about the discontinuation of 3GS support at this point.
Why?
- They are still selling it, and will probably continue to sell it until the iPhone 5 is out
- The 3GS is based on the same architecture as the iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch 4, just with a lower clock speed
- It has the same amount of RAM as the iPad 1 and iPod Touch 4
In other words: iOS 5 will run just slightly slower on a 3GS than it will on an iPod Touch 4, but not a day-and-night difference.
If they choose to exclude the 3GS from iOS 5, it's definitely not for technical reasons, unlike the discontinuation of the first- and second-generation devices, which were based on an entirely different hardware platform.
I speculate that we will see support for the 3GS in iOS 5.0 at least.
Anyway, we will know in roughly 26 hours.
Why?
- They are still selling it, and will probably continue to sell it until the iPhone 5 is out
- The 3GS is based on the same architecture as the iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch 4, just with a lower clock speed
- It has the same amount of RAM as the iPad 1 and iPod Touch 4
In other words: iOS 5 will run just slightly slower on a 3GS than it will on an iPod Touch 4, but not a day-and-night difference.
If they choose to exclude the 3GS from iOS 5, it's definitely not for technical reasons, unlike the discontinuation of the first- and second-generation devices, which were based on an entirely different hardware platform.
I speculate that we will see support for the 3GS in iOS 5.0 at least.
Anyway, we will know in roughly 26 hours.
No, because it has a 1GHz processor.
You need to look at each device as a package.
iPhone 3GS, 600MHz with 256mb RAM.
iPad 1, 1GHz A4 with 256mb RAM. Sure, the A4 is just the same CPU and GPU as the 3GS on the one chip, but we're talking 400MHz of processor speed more in the case of the iPad 1, regardless of the RAM being identical.
iPhone 4, 1GHz A4 underclocked to 800Mhz with 512mb of RAM. So in this case we have 200MHz more in the CPU and double the amount of RAM. That alone will see a reasonable leap in performance over the 3GS.
iPod touch 4G, 1GHz A4 underclocked to 800Mhz with 256mb of RAM. This case sees 200MHz greater CPU performance compared to the 3GS.
As I said, you can't look at just the RAM or just the CPU. In all devices after the 3GS, there are superior specs in either the CPU speed or the amount of RAM (or both in the case of the iPhone 4).
And please, try to come up with a better insult than "RAMfag" next time ... it might actually allow you to restore some semblance of credibility.
Because clock speed makes up for lack of RAM, right?
People are using the 256mb ram as an excuse for 3GS being omitted from the update, don't skip past the issue and start talking about clock speeds.
I think the 3GS won't get iOS 5. It might get very few features, but it won't be enough to say that it's up to date with more current hardware. I'm thinking that if 3GS does end up getting iOS 5, it'll be most of the 'under the hood' features of the software, rather than any visual UI changes. Also, 3GS is having a hard time running iOS 4, I could only imagine what it would be like if you put iOS 5 on it.
It will get iOS 5.
Think about people who bought the 8gb 3GS with 4.0. The EULA/TOS states that the first major iOS upgrade will be free. Those people would not have recieved that.
Think about people who bought the 8gb 3GS with 4.0. The EULA/TOS states that the first major iOS upgrade will be free. Those people would not have recieved that.
What are you talking about? It's running perfectly fine.
Maybe you should try a restore.
Again: If it runs fine on the 4th gen. iPod Touch, it will run fine on the 3GS as well, just a steady ~25% slower (which, in practice, isn't nearly as much as it sounds).It may be released. But the question is, do we actually want it? Let's all reminisce over the iPhone 3G on iOS4.
i hope its left out since then they will take full advantage of the iphone 4 and the next iphone!
Yes, the iPad 1 will be left behind. This is not news. The EULA that was distributed alongside the original iPad hinted very strongly that this would be happening.
All original iPads shipped with iOS 3.x preinstalled. Therefore the EULA's wording contractually obliged Apple to make all minor updates of iOS 3.x, as well as the major upgrade to iOS 4.0, available to their customers free of charge.
Any minor updates that were released after 4.0, were not included in that contractual obligation. Meaning that Apple has been providing them purely as an expression of goodwill towards their customers.
This leaves some room for interpretation in terms of what happens after the transition of iOS 5.x. Any of the following outcomes could be consistent with the contract: (listed in the order of my personal prediction of the most likely to the least likely)
1) Apple does not offer iOS 5.x for the original iPad at all.
2) Apple makes iOS 5.x available for the original iPad, for free, as a continued expression of goodwill to their customers. It will have a reduced set of features as a consequence of the limited hardware resources (mainly RAM).
3) Apple makes iOS 5.x available to original iPad customers only if they pay an upgrade fee.
Tbh, iOS4 is badly bloated, the fact it ran slow on the 3G until optimization proves this, also it has some animation lags even on the iPhone 4... and this was with barely any cosmetic changes.
I expect iOS5 to be way more light weight, to increase performance on all devices and increase battery life
I expect iOS5 to be way more light weight, to increase performance on all devices and increase battery life
In that case, they'd have to leave out iPod Touch 4 and iPad 1 support as well. (Warning: Boring technical explanation follows)
The 3rd-generation (3GS, iPod Touch 3) devices had a lot of big new hardware features over the 2nd-generation ones (3G, iPod Touch 2), like for example ARMv7-support, a much faster graphics chip, OpenGL ES 2 support and double the amount of RAM (which, given the operating system footprint of ~64mb, results in 3x as much RAM available for applications).
It was very clear that they would cut support for those devices rather sooner than later (in fact I was surprised they even released iOS 4 for them).
However, the only thing that the 4th-generation devices (iPad 1, iPhone 4, iPod Touch 4) have over the 3rd-generation ones is faster clock speeds. Yes, the iPhone 4 also has more RAM but neither have the iPad 1 or the iPod Touch 4.
The difference in clock speed isn't very dramatic, and the fact that the 4th-gen. devices have to push a lot more pixels makes the difference even less relevant.
So again: If they really cut support for the 3GS in 5.0, it's not because of technical reasons and I therefore highly doubt it.
They didn't cut support for the 2nd-generation devices in 4.0 even when there were plenty of technical reasons for doing so.
BTW: I don't think we'll see the use of the "S" moniker anytime soon. I think the 3G"S" name was only needed to get the naming of future devices straight (because a lot of people confused iPhone names and generations because of the 2G/3G names for the 1st/2nd generation).
I think this one.
The thing is: There are more iPad 1 than iPad 2 models out there right now. They want developers to support the new stuff in iOS 5 as quickly as possible but not many developers will do that if that means ignoring more than 50% of your potential customers.
However, I also think that iOS 5.x will be the last major release to support the iPad 1 because of the memory limitations.
But we'll probably have the iPad 3 by the time iOS 6 is released, so cutting support for the original iPad won't developers hurt as badly.
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How would you like to eat your crow?
I love it when posters make absolute statements about what Apple is going to do with no basis of truth other than their believes.
Now that we know the 3GS will get iOS 5, is there any sort of list of features that it will not get, I'm sure there are at least a few.
The ones I've heard will not make it onto the 3GS are
-image editing features
-tabbed browsing in safari
http://theapplebites.com/2011/06/08...atures-are-supported-which-not-include-video/
Any others that people running the beta have found?
The ones I've heard will not make it onto the 3GS are
-image editing features
-tabbed browsing in safari
http://theapplebites.com/2011/06/08...atures-are-supported-which-not-include-video/
Any others that people running the beta have found?