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iOS 5 to Bring Revamped Notification System and Widgets?
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Widgets would be kinda cool honestly. It's not something that would even come close to making or breaking my decision to buy a smartphone, but I surely am not going to complain if they implement it.
In fact, I'll be kinda of excited if that rumor is true. I'd definitely play around with that and it would make my phone feel like it had new features to play around with (feel like a newer phone even though it will soon not be the newest).
As for notifications, I am neutral. I don't mind the ones as is. I do agree with some people's complaints about them, but I actually do like one aspect of them that a lot of people don't, I like the pop up screen. But I think there should be a way to keep them as "unread" to look back at if you don't want to bother with them right then (like a list of notifications maybe with the unread ones marked as unread) and I think there should be a way to turn off the pop up in case you are gaming at the time. I also don't like how they stack so if you get several you have to get rid of a stack (plus you only are able to look at one).
So I'm excited about new notifications but I hope they leave some option to let them still pop up if you want (or at least allow calendars/tasks to do a pop up notification, that's where I want the pop up functionality cause I do want that kind of stuff to be interruptive).
Widgets doesn't haver performance issues and doesn't drain battery on Android.
The funnier thing is saying that widgets can be viewed as useful because there is less applications.
Perhaps lilo were in a different world, but you are not very far from him.
Pretty much. On the computer you have to open a whole new screen to even see the widgets and on my computer it takes a long time to open them all. Though I do occasionally use them for the dictionary (especially on the newer MBP which is faster at loading them. My MB was painfully slow at loading widgets honestly to the point you were better off having software that had that function than using the widgets).
I could see it being more useful on the phone cause I'm guessing you wouldn't have to pull up a seperate screen but maybe have the app icon act as the widget as well? That would be a really awesome implementation of it.
Personally not bothered about widgets - I used them when I first got an Android phone because of the novelty but didn't use them much after a while (the only I really used was the clock widget on the front screen) and haven't missed them much since I moved back to iOS.
I'm very hopeful there will be an improved notification system though as iOS desperately needs one.
The other thing I did like about Android (and Sense UI in particular) was that I had more freedom to put apps where I wanted on the home screens (although it's still a grid layout, it doesn't force you to flow left - right, top - bottom), and also the fact that not every single app has to go onto a home screen
I'm very hopeful there will be an improved notification system though as iOS desperately needs one.
The other thing I did like about Android (and Sense UI in particular) was that I had more freedom to put apps where I wanted on the home screens (although it's still a grid layout, it doesn't force you to flow left - right, top - bottom), and also the fact that not every single app has to go onto a home screen
Seriously? Is that a joke?
Isn't it? Well, maybe not. Maybe I'm wrong.
Oh! Looks like you are not ready to argue on the 'FACT' that Android has had performance hits and battery issues due to Widgets.
I mean, even common sense would agree on that, but you won't.
Good.
No one said that Android invented widgets. What was questioned was the OPs use of the word revolutionary when describing the potential inclusion of widgets in iOS5. Widgets existed before the first iPhone, too...
LOL! The ability to do (or conversely not do) something on an iPhone is so foreign...
Sure they did.
If Apple could get sandbox the widgets in something like a Dashboard as explained in a video, that'd be revolutionary; unlike the android implementation which literally keeps everything in motion.
And common sense say that because....
How a mail widget can drain the battery? How a Facebook stream widget can stream the battery? None of them are active. Icon badges drain battery on iOS?
Have you read how widgets work on Android?
someone does not understand what widgets are or how they work or even know of all the ones out there many of which put no real strain on the battery at all.
I suggest you go back and look at SJ announcement of iPhone OS 1.0. He called what we now call Apps Widgets. So nope not not a valid argument there.
Really you should be careful before you start trying to say crap like that and making your self look like a fool.
iPhone OS 1.0 widgets = apps.
Depends on the widgets. Widgets on my phone that will pull some battery life are the weather one because it updates every 30 min or so so that takes a little power. Twitter same reason but that pull is so minor it really has zero effect on the day, along with facebook as well. But same amoung of power as having the app running so it is the app pulling the power not the widget. Widget is just pulling infomtion out of the app.
My email and txt messaging widgets pull ZERO and I repeat ZERO power off the phone. All they do is put up information from the respective location on the phone but cause no power drain.
Music widgets pulling power... Nope none there. Most widgets put no additional power drain on the phone. I see you just looking for a reason to bash other phones but show that you have no understanding of how things work.
Well, Microsoft and RIM aren't very revolutionary so that stands to reason. But what does this have to do with Apple and iOS 5?Caching up with Android does not sound like very revolutionary to me
I want to see a non intrusive notification system, similar to Growl on the Mac. Widgets would be also ok, but only Dashboard like. The lock screen should also show more information, ideally next appointments and last emails.
I wouldn't be a fool and I'd be careful to not insult a fellow poster in a discussion forum. On another note, have some patience, develop some reading comprehension skills and read the english properly. Just so that, I put things in perspective, I'll add the missing quote:
Any person who has debugged or carefully looked at iPhone OS 1.0 would know that Apple had an idea of putting widgets (made through webkit, like they are on OS X).
This can be easily found by navigating to /Library/Widgets folder in iPhone OS 1.0. The widgets folder was empty though as Apple 'must have' had performance issues.
Try a google search and look for the issues with widgets. But as you said, its a case with some widgets (10%? 70%?); not with all widgets.
A notepad or a sticky widget won't use any RAM if I were to code it. But a twitter or facebook widget which has to constantly stream info to the phone will definitely have an impact on the phone. It depends on how many widgets are in action and how they work.
More network dependent and featured widgets will use more RAM and have an impact on processor usage.
Widgets on an iPhone or iPad would finally get all the android fanboys to shut up.
I can't wait!
I can't wait!
I've currently got an Android phone (HTC Hero, FTL), and one thing I really like about it is the widget option. I have a pic of my wife, a calendar widget that is minimal, and buttons to turn off Wifi and data at will. Those are all on my homescreen, and it's so nice to not have to dive through setting to switch them off when they're not needed.
If that's what is meant by "widgets", then I'm interested by something like that. The next iPhone will be my first one, and I'm excited to see what will be offered with it; can't wait for WWDC to see iOS 5 unveiled!
If that's what is meant by "widgets", then I'm interested by something like that. The next iPhone will be my first one, and I'm excited to see what will be offered with it; can't wait for WWDC to see iOS 5 unveiled!
I have an android phone...and I love widgets, I use them a lot, especially the calendar and clocks ones. Everyone needs to chill out because in the end, you don't have to use the widgets if you don't want to... Your arguing is childish
The tale is even more interesting if you look at who gone where been the first iPhone and now. iPhone started as safari pad then Steve saw it retasked the team towards the phone. Some of the team left for palm and made webOS which is mean to be closer to safari pad concept than iPhone. Palm hit financial trouble got brought by HP and some of the webOS team didn't go with them. Notably the widget guy went to android the notification guy came back to apple.
Really interested to see what happens next.
Same! I have the hero and plan on getting the next iPhone! Widgets are pretty useful especially the mobile Internet connect one and the upcoming schedule one
One of my biggest gripes about the iPhone was the notification system, so this is good to hear that it's getting a revamp. There are some nifty widgets that I use with my N1, and I could see using them on the iPhone if I had one.
I just wish now that the lock screen could display more info/be customizable, and that I had the option to only have the apps I use the most on the home screen, instead of having every fricken app slapped on it.
I just wish now that the lock screen could display more info/be customizable, and that I had the option to only have the apps I use the most on the home screen, instead of having every fricken app slapped on it.
Its interesting, youll notice a pattern over the years of what Apple chooses to do with their updates. Their updates seem to coincide what most people are complaining about over the course of a year, specifically on the Internet.
2007-2008: The iPhone is great but we want Apps! Give us 3rd party Apps!
2008-2009: Third-party Apps come to the iPhone. But we want MMS and Copy/Paste, and a way to get notifications when Im out of BeeJive IM. If they dont put that in the next update, Im switching to [Insert Mobile OS here].
2009-2010: Copy and Paste, as well as MMS have arrived. But all I really want to do is listen to Pandora while Im doing other things. Please Apple give us Multitasking!
2010-2011: Multitasking arrives. But the notification system sucks! Please fix it in the next update. Also, widgets are awesome! Please Apple, give us widgets.
2011: It looks like Widgets and new notifications are going to come in iOS 5.0
If you want to predict whats coming in 2012 with iOS 6.0, see what the most complaints about iOS are from 2011-2012.
Yes I know, this is all very obvious.
2007-2008: The iPhone is great but we want Apps! Give us 3rd party Apps!
2008-2009: Third-party Apps come to the iPhone. But we want MMS and Copy/Paste, and a way to get notifications when Im out of BeeJive IM. If they dont put that in the next update, Im switching to [Insert Mobile OS here].
2009-2010: Copy and Paste, as well as MMS have arrived. But all I really want to do is listen to Pandora while Im doing other things. Please Apple give us Multitasking!
2010-2011: Multitasking arrives. But the notification system sucks! Please fix it in the next update. Also, widgets are awesome! Please Apple, give us widgets.
2011: It looks like Widgets and new notifications are going to come in iOS 5.0
If you want to predict whats coming in 2012 with iOS 6.0, see what the most complaints about iOS are from 2011-2012.
Yes I know, this is all very obvious.
Well personally I hope people complain more about syncing.
Wait no I don't i hope apple improves it.
The question is apple reacting or are they picking their battles really well?
Apple would have to start writing code before the old version has been in people's hands long enough for the noise to start to hit it year after year like that.
Edit:sorry didn't notice but think mms was earlier than you said it was on iPhone 2 at least outside of the u.s.a.
