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You can do that on Android by saying "Note to self..."

I hope the iOS version has all and more voice commands a la Android's. Its just really useful. Also, WP7 is going similar commands with the release of Mango, so I'd love to see Apple jump on board too.

I hope Apple does a better job than the existing Google offering as well... and by using Nuance, I think they will.

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I found it interesting how it recognizes punctuation, but didn't capitalize the second sentence.

Just thought I'd throw that out there...
 
Voice recognition is usually impractical. Before you downvote me, consider how often you type things into your phone that you may not want everyone around you to hear for privacy reasons. There is no such thing as private voice recognition. At home it may work, and even then, some things you don't even want your family to hear. Once you consider all the cases in which it wouldn't be such a great feature, it seems that it's unlikely anyone will get used to using it, and as such, stick to the current touchscreen controls.
iMO it'll be used mostly alone in the car to text while driving.
 
soo why can't why say that apple "copy" this feature, and the status bar from android?? no one says that?? but they say samsung copied from them. can someone explain that?
Apple bought Siri and is licensing technology from Nuance. Any "copying" in this case is authorized by the companies that created the technology, in direct contrast to the dispute between Apple and Samsung.
 
Apple bought Siri and is licensing technology from Nuance. Any "copying" in this case is authorized by the companies that created the technology, in direct contrast to the dispute between Apple and Samsung.

he's referring to them "copying" from Android's existing built-in feature set, not from the company they licensed the nuance/dragon tech from, which is basically just old-fashioned computer-based voice recognition software. I had Dragon software on my PC back in the late 90s or early 2000s. It didn't really work.

Google's voice recognition software from GOOG411/Android actually works.

I'm sure that whatever Apple rolls into iOS5 will be fine, but it is certainly not breaking any new ground.
 
he's referring to them "copying" from Android's existing built-in feature set, not from the company they licensed the nuance/dragon tech from, which is basically just old-fashioned computer-based voice recognition software. I had Dragon software on my PC back in the late 90s or early 2000s. It didn't really work.

Google's voice recognition software from GOOG411/Android actually works.

I'm sure that whatever Apple rolls into iOS5 will be fine, but it is certainly not breaking any new ground.
Given that the story is about voice recognition/command technology, it was reasonable to assume that this was what the poster was referring to in the comment about copying, given that the poster did not specify any other feature.

Edit: you do realize that the video was of a Nexus, not an iPhone, so if it looked like Android, that's because it was...
 
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Is it normal for there to be features that show up in the final iOS release, that didn't appear to devs beforehand?

It'd make sense... I mean, there's a possibility Apple will only give the iPhone 5 some new (software) features, to make more of a reason to upgrade than just an upgraded processor + camera. Imo, it's a smart idea. It'd anger a lot of people, knowing their current iPhones could handle the new features, but it'd obviously make a good selling point for the new iPhone.
 
I doubt that Google will be suing Apple for making a product with similar capabilities. But you can bet if Apple had it first they would be suing Google for infringement.
 
Neat, but will people really use this feature...? I expect the threshold to be relatively high to keep using it after the initial "play-around" period... It really needs to be snappy and VERY VERY well integrated. Texting has been around since day one and won't step down from the throne that easy. ;)
 
I'm guessing this will be an iPhone-5-only feature. I'd love to get this on my 3GS though, I know it's capable of it.
 
nuance/dragon tech [...] is basically just old-fashioned computer-based voice recognition software. I had Dragon software on my PC back in the late 90s or early 2000s. It didn't really work.

So, you tried it about 10 years ago (when Win2K was new and Win98 still roamed the Earth!), and that makes it "old-fashioned"?

I guess 10 years is too short for software and technology to evolve!

I'm sure that whatever Apple rolls into iOS5 will be fine, but it is certainly not breaking any new ground.

Who knows. Maybe it will just work better than other already-existing things... and that usually gives them (and us) good results.

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So far, almost all "new" features in iOS 5 are adaptations from Android. iOS 5 is proof that Apple ran out of own innovations.

Yep, I miss the times where they invented whole new concepts. Like the phone.

Um, wait, no, the phone already existed. ... and so did tablets! And computers! OMG, Apple didn't innovate anything!

(on the other hand, I seem to faintly recall that voice input in smartphones already existed before Android? ... or do you mean Android invented it?)
 
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Neat, but will people really use this feature...? I expect the threshold to be relatively high to keep using it after the initial "play-around" period... It really needs to be snappy and VERY VERY well integrated. Texting has been around since day one and won't step down from the throne that easy. ;)

Having owned many Android phones, I can say that what you said at the end is very true. I definitely never relied on this for normal text input after the "play" period, but I found myself in many little situations where it was handy. It was only one click, say the words, then boom, my text is there. If it's that easy on iOS, it'll be a great addition, even if you'll use the keyboard for most things. Times when you're only using one hand suck when you have to type it all out... Unless you have Swype of course :p
 
I bought Vlingo for my iPhone shortly after I purchased it, all for sending text messages Via voice. It was fun for a while, but most cases, I text when it isn't appropriate for me to talk.

It will be a nice feature, but one I personally have little use for in practice.


More copying from Android... tut tut tut.

Entirely possible, however, Apple has been dabbling with Voice recognition since 1990, before Google even existed. tut tut tut....
 
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Fail...

How the hell is this going to work for international and regional accents?

I am Scottish and if an American human can't understand me when I ask for a beer on holiday how the hell is an iPhone? I can barely understand a regional accent from 150 miles north of where I live.

I am predicting that this will work well for you Yanks but no one else. I am also predicting that your the only nationality brash and brazen enough to talk into a phone in public, Europeans are far too cool and reserved to do this, as are Asians.

This is just another Facetime. Perhaps used on the first day to check out the tech but after that only used by 1% of end users, mostly geeks and fanbois.
 
I bought Vlingo for my iPhone shortly after I purchased it, all for sending text messages Via voice. It was fun for a while, but most cases, I text when it isn't appropriate for me to talk.

It will be a nice feature, but one I personally have little use for in practice.




Entirely possible, however, Apple has been dabbling with Voice recognition since 1990, before Google even existed. tut tut tut....

You would have to write this a 100 times here to make some people understand that.

Yep, I miss the times where they invented whole new concepts. Like the phone.

Um, wait, no, the phone already existed. ... and so did tablets! And computers! OMG, Apple didn't innovate anything!

(on the other hand, I seem to faintly recall that voice input in smartphones already existed before Android? ... or do you mean Android invented it?)

Android also invented 'Drop down menus' & Apple itself.

Get your facts right.

:rolleyes:
 
I am Scottish and if an American human can't understand me when I ask for a beer on holiday how the hell is an iPhone? I can barely understand a regional accent from 150 miles north of where I live.

So, let's suppose that the accent was such a big problem. At what percentage of Earth's population unable to use the product would you rate it as "fail"?

I am predicting that this will work well for you Yanks but no one else. I am also predicting that your the only nationality brash and brazen enough to talk into a phone in public, Europeans are far too cool and reserved to do this, as are Asians.

Heh, that'd be hilarious. Imagine that... talking into a phone! IN PUBLIC!! Like, in the street! Or in a bus!
Oh wait...

This is just another Facetime. Perhaps used on the first day to check out the tech but after that only used by 1% of end users, mostly geeks and fanbois.

So, talking instead of typing is geeky?
 
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Voice recognition is usually impractical. Before you downvote me, consider how often you type things into your phone that you may not want everyone around you to hear for privacy reasons. There is no such thing as private voice recognition. At home it may work, and even then, some things you don't even want your family to hear. Once you consider all the cases in which it wouldn't be such a great feature, it seems that it's unlikely anyone will get used to using it, and as such, stick to the current touchscreen controls.

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According to a source testing the feature, it works almost identically (video above) to the Android operating system's speech-to-text feature.
Playing a bit of catch-up, are we?
 
Playing a bit of catch-up, are we?

That's a bit of a dangerous thing to say about Apple.
You know, as when they played catch-up and got into, say, tablets. Or netbooks/ultralight notebooks. Or...
 
Fail...

How the hell is this going to work for international and regional accents?

I am Scottish and if an American human can't understand me when I ask for a beer on holiday how the hell is an iPhone? I can barely understand a regional accent from 150 miles north of where I live.

I am predicting that this will work well for you Yanks but no one else. I am also predicting that your the only nationality brash and brazen enough to talk into a phone in public, Europeans are far too cool and reserved to do this, as are Asians.

This is just another Facetime. Perhaps used on the first day to check out the tech but after that only used by 1% of end users, mostly geeks and fanbois.

Firstly I should say that I don't really know that much about how modern voice recognition software actually works, but I have a few ideas about the basic principles.

So, I think the big difference here is if that massive building come super computer data centre that Apple has built is going to be processing the sound samples to convert to text. If that is the case then the amount of speech that they can use to tune the system will be immense.

Consider that in normal situations, especially in voice recognition of the past, the sample set for the voice data was relatively small. If millions of people are using the conversion service daily then the sample set will grow incredibly large very quickly.

Presumably this will apply to regional accents, as long as there is actually information in the spoken words some where ( not sure if this applies to Newcastle accent or not )
 
Playing a bit of catch-up, are we?

Regardless of what people may think on here, Apple is rarely first with new technology in any given segment. But that in itself isn't always bad.

I don't think that iOS or the iPhone are the best devices in the world, but Apple sure has made them profitable despite their shortcomings. Favorites aside, Apple is doing OK in the phone market, considering they got into it in 2007, against competitors who have been in the business for decades.

I personally love all this back and forth with Android and iOS. It is pushing both sides to keep moving forward, and all of us are getting some amazing Kit ( Android and iOS) because of it.
 
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