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Wow, why all the hate?

Google does this, and so do other companies, but Google provides you with a disclaimer up front when you set up your phone. Apple should at least provide the disclaimer to users and let them choose whether or not they want to turn this off/on.

People that are posting all this "conspiracy" nonsense to make OP or anyone else feel like they are paranoid simply because they are concerned of privacy is ridiculous. You can have a concern without being paranoid.

EDIT:

In order to display traffic data in maps, you have to have the traffic setting turned on.
 
Wow, why all the hate?

Google does this, and so do other companies, but Google provides you with a disclaimer up front when you set up your phone. Apple should at least provide the disclaimer to users and let them choose whether or not they want to turn this off/on.

People that are posting all this "conspiracy" nonsense to make OP or anyone else feel like they are paranoid simply because they are concerned of privacy is ridiculous. You can have a concern without being paranoid.

EDIT:

In order to display traffic data in maps, you have to have the traffic setting turned on.

Apple has never hidden the fact that traffic data is crowdsourced from it's users, and does not hide the fact that you can turn it on or off. Like someone mentioned they provide a host of options for turning off tracking, more so than most companies.

Paranoid maybe, but the data returned is anonymous.
 
Yeah, and here in Denmark, all phone carriers is forced by the government to save SMS'es, call history, where you've done what, and your browsing history for a year. The Danish Security and Intelligence Service logs over 10.000 things about every citizen in Denmark every year.

So get over it :rolleyes:
It seems Scandinavian countries do have a different take upon privacy than other Western countries. I have been told that, for social programs support, taxes etc. that data on people was taken from very detailed census reports and colligated through unified databases, and, at least in Sweden, completely open to the public. This would be unthinkable here, although I doubt they would ask our permission to do so if they really wanted to build such a database here.

(...) Like someone mentioned they provide a host of options for turning off tracking, more so than most companies.

Paranoid maybe, but the data returned is anonymous.
Do you understate that Android's option for disabling tracking are much more limited and hidden than Apple's?
 
Even if Location Services is disabled?

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Yeah, and here in Denmark, all phone carriers is forced by the government to save SMS'es, call history, where you've done what, and your browsing history for a year. The Danish Security and Intelligence Service logs over 10.000 things about every citizen in Denmark every year.

So get over it :rolleyes:

In the US, the ISPs track every website its customers go to. Nothing is really private. And I don't see why anyone would care if their anonymous data is sent to Google or Apple. It's nowhere near as invasive as the ISPs, and even that is not scary at all.

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I hope they are watching and recording my every move, especially the derogatory comments to Siri about how utterly, ****ing woeful it is at understanding me.

"Set a timer for three minutes".

"OK. I found these tables for three". *proceeds to list restaurants.

:mad:

Me: "Navigate me to 12345 Example Street"
Siri hears: "Navigate meeza 12345 Santa Monica Blvd"
Siri: "Navigating to 12345 Wilshire Blvd"

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What does this mean? It means you now have NO CHOICE in reporting traffic data to Apple. Not only is this a privacy concern, but it chews on battery. Is this even legal to prevent us from turning this off?

I don't care about the privacy, but the battery usage thing is bad. Oh well, if nobody did this, then there would be no traffic data. I think it's worth sacrificing some battery life for the greater good.
 
In the US, the ISPs track every website its customers go to. Nothing is really private. And I don't see why anyone would care if their anonymous data is sent to Google or Apple. It's nowhere near as invasive as the ISPs, and even that is not scary at all.
It's not US-specific. It's widespread worldwide, including France with its infamous HADOPI law.

BTW, Google doesn't just compile anonymous data. They start with anonymous, but try (and for the most part, succeed in) to convince you to hand them your personal, confidential information without even a second thought. GMail being a prominent one. And millions of Android devices people just don't care about configuring properly surely do send tons of private info to Google. They're losing money on Android OS itself. Why do you think they give it away for free? There would be no goal in getting any market share if it wasn't possible to make any money out of it.

As with GMO, simple caution should tell that something isn't right with their hunger of personal information, nevermind the "Don't be evil" moto, even if they won't point an orbital laser cannon on your head.
 
It's not US-specific. It's widespread worldwide, including France with its infamous HADOPI law.

BTW, Google doesn't just compile anonymous data. They start with anonymous, but try (and for the most part, succeed in) to convince you to hand them your personal, confidential information without even a second thought. GMail being a prominent one. And millions of Android devices people just don't care about configuring properly surely do send tons of private info to Google. They're losing money on Android OS itself. Why do you think they give it away for free? There would be no goal in getting any market share if it wasn't possible to make any money out of it.

As with GMO, simple caution should tell that something isn't right with their hunger of personal information, nevermind the "Don't be evil" moto, even if they won't point an orbital laser cannon on your head.

OK, so all ISPs do that, which is not surprising. But Google services do take data anonymously. What benefit would they have in getting the kind of non-anonymous data? It's not like they're going to single one person out. As for the Android thing, there is also the benefit of getting people in the Google ecosystem. They give out plenty of services for free. Their money is made off of advertising. There's nothing evil about it.

Still, to be extra safe, I don't think it's a good idea to use Google Code for money-making projects or Gmail (or any public mail service) for confidential emails.
 
(...) What benefit would they have in getting the kind of non-anonymous data? It's not like they're going to single one person out. As for the Android thing, there is also the benefit of getting people in the Google ecosystem. They give out plenty of services for free. Their money is made off of advertising. There's nothing evil about it.

Still, to be extra safe, I don't think it's a good idea to use Google Code for money-making projects or Gmail (or any public mail service) for confidential emails.
Their services are free, precisely. Although grossly overrated, they still provide decent functionality. But you ask the precise question, what would be their benefit out of getting non-anonymous data? I don't have the answer, and I doubt anyone outside Google has it. But since Eric Schmidt's take on privacy was this now infamous "If you care about privacy or not telling anyone something you done, it's because you have something to hide" (Or similar-meaning formulation), this is a very powerful reason not to use their service. This comment was, and still gives chills along the spine.
 
Think I'll leave it on for now, wouldn't mind maps etc. being optimized quickly. I can see the battery drain and other issues, so maybe i'll disable it one day. Nice to have the option still :)
 
Yeah, and here in Denmark, all phone carriers is forced by the government to save SMS'es, call history, where you've done what, and your browsing history for a year. The Danish Security and Intelligence Service logs over 10.000 things about every citizen in Denmark every year.

So get over it :rolleyes:

Yea but on the plus side here in the UK we do love your TV drama e.g. Sarah Lund (Sofie Gråbøl) and Borgen. :D

Oops! nearly forget "The Bridge".
 
I'm pretty sure if they wanted to track anything they wouldn't need anyones permission :D no matter what you disable the fact that you have a phone means they can pin point you anytime , anywhere :D disabling a few features is useless :D
 
Yea but on the plus side here in the UK we do love your TV drama e.g. Sarah Lund (Sofie Gråbøl) and Borgen. :D

Oops! nearly forget "The Bridge".

Haha yeah... They're great! Actually the new season of Forbrydelsen/The Killing just started last Sunday. And it's already god damn exciting after just two episodes. Look forward to it :D
 
Haha yeah... They're great! Actually the new season of Forbrydelsen/The Killing just started last Sunday. And it's already god damn exciting after just two episodes. Look forward to it :D

Now that's just plain cruel telling me that. Worse than waiting for any Apple product.
 
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