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Because people are judging apps based on a beta OS. There might be as much as 5 betas until GM. Developers can't even submit apps based on anything in iOS 6. Bitching because an app does not work will fall on deaf ears until it is released.

Neither of my points was anything to the contrary.

I'll repeat them:

It's useful for two reasons:

1) Some people might update to iOS 6 and find that an app they really need doesn't work.

This is relevant NOW. Some people might be put off upgrading to the beta if they find out an App they use doesn't work. Skype didn't work in some of the iOS 5.0 betas - that was a pretty big deal for me, so I didn't upgrade

2) People can keep track of when/if these apps are updated to make them compatible.

I don't see what's wrong with this. If App x doesn't work, then they can easily see when/if an App is updated. Some older apps aren't maintained or the developer might want you to buy a newer version on the App Store.

My points only cover the period between now and the release, not anything beyond that.

This thread is not about "bitching", it's about observing.

Yes, I understand that. I guess I am not making my point clear. Developers know if their apps work on iOS 6 already. They installed it from the developer center and tested their own apps. Now if it does not work they are currently working to make sure it is ready for launch. There is no need to list those that work and those that don't.

Perhaps for some developers that will be the case, but it doesn't always work like that.

A lot of Apps are produced by development companies that a non-tech company hires to make their App. In that case, there won't be anyone sitting there twiddling their thumbs waiting for something to do. A fix will only be made at the request of the brand holder.
 
Neither of my points was anything to the contrary.

I'll repeat them:

It's useful for two reasons:

1) Some people might update to iOS 6 and find that an app they really need doesn't work.

This is relevant NOW. Some people might be put off upgrading to the beta if they find out an App they use doesn't work. Skype didn't work in some of the iOS 5.0 betas - that was a pretty big deal for me, so I didn't upgrade

2) People can keep track of when/if these apps are updated to make them compatible.

I don't see what's wrong with this. If App x doesn't work, then they can easily see when/if an App is updated. Some older apps aren't maintained or the developer might want you to buy a newer version on the App Store.

My points only cover the period between now and the release, not anything beyond that.

This thread is not about "bitching", it's about observing.

This seems to be a problem of non-developers getting the beta.
Non-developers should not be using the beta no matter what is on the internet.
Was skype not working critical for you developing your app while you used the beta of iOS 5? or were you using it for personal use?

Apple keeps these builds out of the public hands for a reason or at least it tries.


In the end it does not matter, people will list what does not work, even during a beta where things are in flux. I understand that.
 
This seems to be a problem of non-developers getting the beta.
Non-developers should not be using the beta no matter what is on the internet.
Was skype not working critical for you developing your app while you used the beta of iOS 5? or were you using it for personal use?

I use the device for both purposes - development and my own personal use. I'm not a billionaire. I can't afford to buy another iPhone just so I can have a tinker with the dev tools.

I fully understand the risks of using a beta OS on a device, but I don't see them as being significant enough to not do it.

In the same vein of discussion, you are talking about iOS 6 on these forums, breaking the NDA. Isn't that a problem too?
 
I use the device for both purposes - development and my own personal use. I'm not a billionaire. I can't afford to buy another iPhone just so I can have a tinker with the dev tools.

I fully understand the risks of using a beta OS on a device, but I don't see them as being significant enough to not do it.

In the same vein of discussion, you are talking about iOS 6 on these forums, breaking the NDA. Isn't that a problem too?

I also use it on my main device.

That is always a problem, I sleep at night though because what I disclose has been reported already on the rumor sites. But each developer who posts any info here breaks the NDA.

I have nothing more to say, those who list these apps will continue to list the apps even though it won't help alert the developer to fix them. Odds are most will release a compatible app before the GM is released anyway.
 
I'm not complaining. My point is developers won't put much effort into fixing an app that does not work in a beta. Form a list of apps that don't work AFTER the OS is released is my point. Simple.

You're missing it. THATS THE POINT OF BETA RELEASES! It's to make sure your apps work upon official iOS release
 
You're missing it. THATS THE POINT OF BETA RELEASES! It's to make sure your apps work upon official iOS release

I was speaking about the point of making a list of apps that don't work , like this topic. I understand the point of the beta. My point was 1. Developers know if their apps work or not and are working on them already 2. Developers probably won't see this list. Now if the point of the list is to warn other beta users what works, that's another subject. As with any beta one person's app might run fine and crash on my device.
 
I was speaking about the point of making a list of apps that don't work , like this topic. I understand the point of the beta. My point was 1. Developers know if their apps work or not and are working on them already 2. Developers probably won't see this list. Now if the point of the list is to warn other beta users what works, that's another subject. As with any beta one person's app might run fine and crash on my device.

I dont think the point of this was to tell Devs. Like you said, they'd know. Idk how that would've been concluded in this case. I think it was meant as a "Hey, fellow forum members, this app doesn't work"
 
Do people complain about non devs using the betas just so that they can feel more important and exclusive?

The op was simply stating that some apps don't work. I was actually looking for this thread because kindle stopped working after an update and I wanted to confirm that the beta is the cause and not a problem with my iPad. It is useful information.

If op had ranted about kindle not working then yes, flame him for not understanding beta. Otherwise stop trying to make yourself feel special. Unless you work for apple, is it any of your business who has the beta?

Ps yes I am a dev and no i don't care who has the beta. If you want to take the small risk then install it. It's not a nuclear bomb... Just some phone OS..
 
I can't open the magazines on Newsstand

Out of curiosity, i installed the ios 6 beta version, but I wasn't exciting after my Microblog crash, my games crash, some apps couldn't be open, even my magazines couldn't open in Newsstand.

I am just waiting the ios 6 release, and upgrade my apps in my iPhone 4S.
 
The only app I've had consistent issues with thus far is MobileIron. It crashes immediately. Tested on both iPhone 4S and new iPad.
 
I can confirm that the Kindle app crashes on both the iPad 3 and the iPhone 4S when trying to open a book. That's literally the only major thing keeping me from using it as I have a book to read lol.
 
Just remember that iOS6 is still in beta testing and some developers may not actually be interested in fixing their apps until after iOS6 is released.
 
Apple's own Find My Friends crashes if you try to display a map.
It locates the friends just fine -- just don't try to display them on the map.

Also Dropbox fails to load. It gets to the passcode screen and then hangs with a black screen.

These are both on an iPhone 4.
 
at least for me mlb at bat 12 does not want to stream audio. I'm only having issues with the english broadcasts. they get stuck at buffering and never play. If i try a spanish station they start right up. Not sure what would be the difference between the stream other than the language.
 
Kindle crashing

Kindle - crashes when you try to access a book.

Any more? Please post below.

Pardon the blasphemy but the exact same Kindle problem hit Android users when Ice Cream Sandwich came out in beta. The fix there was to insert a couple of fonts into the Kindle app's font list: droid sans and droid sans bold I think.

Anybody any idea if this could be the same problem?
 
It's threads like this who turn developers on those who silently like to install the iOS betas. Who cares what apps work and which don't? I've had some apps crash, but I'm sensible enough to acknowledge I chose to install a beta and that some apps will not work. I made that choice, I'm not going to flood the App Store with negative reviews.
 
I can confirm that the Kindle app crashes on both the iPad 3 and the iPhone 4S when trying to open a book. That's literally the only major thing keeping me from using it as I have a book to read lol.

Kindle 3.0 works perfectly on iPad 3 and iPhone 4S here, however Kindle 3.1 always crashes when trying to access a book, fortunately I still had a version of 3.0 and was able to remove newer version and go back to the older working one.
 
My Tumblr app is sketch. Can't upload photos. I always get an error message.
 
It's threads like this who turn developers on those who silently like to install the iOS betas. Who cares what apps work and which don't? I've had some apps crash, but I'm sensible enough to acknowledge I chose to install a beta and that some apps will not work. I made that choice, I'm not going to flood the App Store with negative reviews.

Apple should just stop allowing reviews when running beta os! Would cut back on all the idiots who install it and don't have a clue how unstable it might be.

Mind you, it's the same as the people who install it then complain about battery life, etc when i'm sure apple have more diagnostic stuff running then they'd normally have in a public release.

Oh well, life goes on... i just aim to not visit these forums so much during a beta! :p
 
this is why I hate thread topics like this. This is a Beta and is not designed to be on peoples main phone it is not up to us as users to test their apps they are doing that and they will release them when IOS6 hits final release. So who cares if a some silly random app doesn't work you are one of the ones that shouldn't have IOS6 on your phone.

Not to mention all the "so called developers" how would you like it if people gave your app bad reviews" because it didn't work on a beta OS you wouldn't like it. you would lose sales because people didn't think it worked on the current IOS which isn't the case 99%

If you are concerned about wether an app is going to work or not do not install ios6 on your main device. buy a ipod touch or a used iphone and install it on that.
 
MLB at Bat

I'm a marginal baseball person. I like to listen to my hometown games though I live in New York. I've installed iOS 6. MLB at Bat's audio doesn't work. It keeps "buffering." Last night I got a "connection error" error. Certain other features work. Anybody have any similar issues or know anyone who does, or where I could go to get information about it? Largely, I am pleased with iOS 6. I like the built in Amber Alerts and Emergency Alerts.
 
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