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Everyone seems to have missed the non-highlighted part: "Photo of a person holding an iPhone in their right hand..."

To me, that suggests that it will use facial recognition in conjunction with the fingerprint sensor.

All of you talking about how "easy" it is to defeat the fingerprint sensor are missing the point. Lifting a fingerprint and then duplicating it to break into the phone is not a realistic risk IRL. This is real-life, not some James Bond movie. At the very least, it's far more secure than it is right now with a 4 digit PIN.

Finally someone has half a brain. Some posters are saying what if, this or that, is going to happen to ones finger to get into an iPhone (Copy it or cut it off). This is real life. No one is going to go to that extreme to get into your phone..... Except you spouse of course.
 
To the people saying that the NSA will get their finger prints: Don't most of you have a passport? I don't know about the US, but EU passports have biometric data on them -> finger prints.
 
The title should read "Apple copies Samsung's fingerprint scanner"

Yep, Samsung created fingerprint scanners. A different day, same nonsense from the usual troller

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To the people saying that the NSA will get their finger prints: Don't most of you have a passport? I don't know about the US, but EU passports have biometric data on them -> finger prints.

Couldn't agree more.
 
Fingerprint scanners have been around for decades. Tell me again who is living in the past by thinking they're a great, futuristic way of doing things.
It's not the technology, it's the implementation. The reason you find the idea so useless is because you're not using your imagination. Consider this scenario:

Your credit card info is entered into iTunes. So you leave your wallet and all your credit cards behind. All you have is your iPhone. Go to store. Purchase something. Store X checkout person asks you for your iTunes username. Your invoice then goes to Apple via the store's internet connection. You then get a pop-up dialog box on your iPhone that tells you how much you are being charged at Store X. You then confirm or deny the charge. If you confirm, you simply enter a password in. However, if you have an iPhone with fingerprint sensor, you simply swipe it, and you're done. Voila! The whole purchase was accomplished with no NFC, no scanner, and most importantly, no wallet.

This could also work very easily with ATM machines, where you simply enter your iTunes username, and a verification message pops up on your phone requiring either a password or swipe of your finger.

If something like this picked up steam, Apple could very well kill off credit cards as we know it. There's no reason Apple has to route payments through credit cards if they could deduct the money directly from your bank account. 3% per transaction? Could make iPhone revenue look like chump change.

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And it's about time I must say. The hardware home button is long in the tooth imho.

It's also the most commonly broken part that Apple has to repair under warranty.
 
Great.

Pass out drunk with friends.

Wake up, they're swiped your thumb on your phone and posted embarrassing pictures of you onto facebook.

Lovely.
 
I was going to ask how this works with full cover cases. Is there anyway they can be made to work with biometrics?

I don't think so. It won't be your actual finger touching the home button, therefore fingerprint can possibly be read.
It's a good thing this won't affect me though. :p
 
I re-enter a 4 digit pin every time I unlock my phone.

I've certainly never thought to myself "Gosh this is tedious -- why can't someone invent a way to do this in such a way that adds new piece of hardware that can malfunction and render my phone unusable."


I guess you've never been waiting for something to load, respond to a text, etc.. only to have your phone turn off repeatedly and having to re-type in your passcode over and over again?

Maybe you have more patience than I do, but I think one press is better than four.
 
Great.

Pass out drunk with friends.

Wake up, they're swiped your thumb on your phone and posted embarrassing pictures of you onto facebook.

Lovely.

This is so gonna happen, and I bet the guy whose penis is all over the Internet will sue Apple :rolleyes:

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I don't think so. It won't be your actual finger touching the home button, therefore fingerprint can possibly be read.
It's a good thing this won't affect me though. :p

Be interesting to see how the full protection case designers deal with this, other than leaving the home button exposed.
 
This is so gonna happen, and I bet the guy whose penis is all over the Internet will sue Apple :rolleyes:

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Be interesting to see how the full protection case designers deal with this, other than leaving the home button exposed.

If the home button is capacitive and isn't a physical button anymore that pushes in to make contact, there will be no need to cover it. Case makers will simply leave the bottom part of the screen uncovered.
 
Give the front facing camera a purpose. Retina scan. Even better then a fingerprint scanner. As the finger prints can be lifted.
 
Give the front facing camera a purpose. Retina scan. Even better then a fingerprint scanner. As the finger prints can be lifted.
Retina scan would require high resolution zoom. It's unnecessary. All it requires is facial recognition which they already have - it's built into iPhoto. In combination with the fingerprint sensor, it confirms the identity and that the live owner is using it.
 
Can't imagine it'll be anything but a capacitive home button.
Not necessarily.

The AuthenTec sensor that Apple is using is less than 1/2 inch wide.

The most noteworthy public product AuthenTec has is not its run of the mill finger print scanners, but a new "Smart Sensor" that acts as a sophisticated touch pad controller.

While just 13.3mm wide by 3mm high and a scant 1.30 mm thick, the company's first Smart Sensor, announced in May just as Apple began its frantic efforts to buy the firm, packs a 500 pixel per inch, 192x8 pixel detection matrix and all the necessary finger print matching technology and security encryption to serve as a fully self contained finger recognizer.

AuthenTec notes that its "semiconductor-based sensors are based on both capacitive and radio frequency (RF) technology that detects an image of the fingerprint ridge and valley pattern beneath the surface of the skin, thus capturing sharp and clear fingerprint patterns from the live layer. This approach, which is in marked contrast with optical, thermal and other solutions that simply read the surface of the skin, gives AuthenTec sensors significant advantages in image quality and in the protective coatings that the sensor can image through."

Additionally, AuthenTec has developed "anti-spoofing technology" that "dynamically measures the properties of finger skin placed on the sensor while the finger is being scanned. This patented technology ensures that only real fingerprints are read by converting the properties of the skin into digital data which are delivered to the host computer for analysis. AuthenTec anti-spoofing technology then compares the data with expected properties to ensure fingerprint authentication."

The company notes that "because of the approach, anyone who attempts to swipe the finger of a dead person in order to access important physical or logical data would fail."

A touch pad for iOS devices

In addition, AuthenTec's Smart Sensor can also be used to provide touch-based navigation, functioning as a "precise cursor control for text editing," with support for "360 degree mouse navigation," "optical joystick emulation," or as a "unique turbo-scroll feature for rapid browsing of long emails, contact lists or websites," according to public information released by the firm prior to its acquisition.
 
Give the front facing camera a purpose. Retina scan. Even better then a fingerprint scanner. As the finger prints can be lifted.

Not if someone gets the hands on that thingamajig from Avengers that Loki used. :p
 
am i the only one using iphone assistive touch cause i know what it did to my iPod Touch :(
Good think if that hardware button is going out.
 
It's not about being hard on a phone, it's the working conditions. Not everyone works in an office, many work outside in all conditions.

I see MANY people in offices, with Otter boxes etc. Not to mention how so many claim the home button breaks or fails to function.

Did you not see my all of my previous post - bolded to help my statement stand out -
I've never understood putting such a thin, artfully designed :apple: phone in those big thick cases unless you work construction/maintenance etc.

How hard are people on their phones? :confused:
 
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The home button will probably be switched to capacitive, and will be wider. More of an oval shape. Some people have big fingers, so the current button won't get a full print. Even if the sensor is very small, I still feel like the home button will be larger.

Everybody who is freaking out that people can still access the phone by copying their finger prints are crazy.

Additionally, AuthenTec has developed "anti-spoofing technology" that "dynamically measures the properties of finger skin placed on the sensor while the finger is being scanned. This patented technology ensures that only real fingerprints are read by converting the properties of the skin into digital data which are delivered to the host computer for analysis. AuthenTec anti-spoofing technology then compares the data with expected properties to ensure fingerprint authentication."

The company notes that "because of the approach, anyone who attempts to swipe the finger of a dead person in order to access important physical or logical data would fail."

So the prints will either be stored on the phone, or encrypted in the Cloud (more likely the phone, so the tin-foil-wearing paranoid people don't have a cow).
 
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Now we are talking!!! Hopefully apple will use it for more then just finger scanning. How about sliding left to right to switch between applications? Joystick and scroll wheel under your thumb so u don't have to interrupt reading or playing? Paving way for larger iPhone screen with preserved one hand operation? And with Tim's announced explosion of sensors, who knows what else will be packed into home button or strip. Of course, knowing apple, most advancements will come in the model after this one.
 
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I still think the coloured iphone won't be a low cost iphone. They will be improved internals of the 5, such as camera, processor and possibly a "pro" iphone in metal that has a standout feature such as the fingerprint sensor.
 
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