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It just makes sense! I can use it for free if I open safari and go to iCloud, so it would just be stupid for them to keep asking money for it... And that would give them a huge advantage in this area, in iOS and in the Macs.

Fingers crossed!
 
Wow, this is the best week ever. :D

This would be super cool if it ends up being true. I've been using iWork for years now, and even my brother now uses it when he has to type up something for school.

Great pieces of software for the average person who just needs something that's more than TextEdit, but less than Microsoft Word. I think there are a lot of people who don't understand that for the average user, Microsoft Office is just too bloated. I mean, it does everything that you would ever need to do, but a $100 investment in this day and age is a bit much, especially when they expect you to upgrade every year. In a way, sorta like Adobe's suite. This is the sorta thing that pushes people to a tablet and Bluetooth keyboard setup. The keyboard and a $10 app are going to end up being cheaper in the end.
 
Obscure features? I don't think something as cross-references can be described as an obscure feature. Every decent word processor has it, and it is considered one of the most important features of real word processing. WordPerfect, LibreOffice Writer, Mellel, Nisus Writer Pro. All of these word processors have cross-references. Pages doesn't.

Everybody may use any word processor to create a document with 200+ pages. However, the real deal about word processors is that they allow the creation of documents to be much easier and straightforward with features that allow structured writing. Pages is a beautiful program, but it is some sort of mixture of basic word processing with basic desktop publishing. You get both, but you don't get real features of any of them. The output is a nice document with beautifully designed pages. But what if you have a 300-page dissertation with over 1,000 footnotes and several cross-references between them? Would you adjust these footnotes manually? I wouldn't, as it would require a lot of time and effort. I prefer to use a feature called cross-references, which is present in Word, WordPerfect, Mellel, Nisus Writer Pro, LibreOffice Writer, and nearly every major word processor. With the exception of Pages, of course.

Do you really think creating a 300-page dissertation with over 1,000 footnotes and several cross-references between them is a significant percentage of what people use word for? I think "obscure" is reasonable. Most people don't even use styles in my experience.

No, it is not. Pages could have it. Microsoft Office uses an open standard, and Apple could have invested some money in decrypting it.

Because it makes perfect sense for Apple to let Microsoft dictate their development?

What am I supposed to tell a client that complains that the document I send to him has compatibility issues and doesn't open well in his Microsoft Word?

Send the client a PDF. Which usually makes more sense anyway.
 
this would be great if I wasn't so deep into Google Docs. If apple gives me the one thing I'm missing, which is integrated attachments on mobile (can't do this with G Drive, only links to files, a la Dropbox) I'll really use iWork. Until then I just download the doc into my Files App and send it that way.
 
Is it really a crime to steal from thieves? Copyright used to give a limited monopoly to content creators for 10 years, then the corporate lobby got involved, and it is over 100 years old. This undermined the whole purpose of copyright law: namely to motivate content creators to create works for the public good. The 100 plus years is silly considering very few works are original, the creative threshold for a copyright is law, and patent expire after 20 years with a much higher creative threshold. Moreover, the penalty for copyright infringement is worst then if you walked into your local store and stole the hard copies.

Yes.

It's like murdering a murderer, you're still going to jail.
 
I hope this rumor is true. I don't use iWork or iLife apps on iOS because of the cost but I would like to see how they interface with iCloud and the desktop apps. I'm sure it would really help to drive the Apple ecosystem and promote more people actually using the apps.
 
Do you really think creating a 300-page dissertation with over 1,000 footnotes and several cross-references between them is a significant percentage of what people use word for? I think "obscure" is reasonable. Most people don't even use styles in my experience.

Pet peeve alert. If the Word documents I see are any indication, then the misuse of styles by the general population of Word users is well in excess of 90%. In virtually all of the Word documents I see, every paragraph is styled as "normal" and every font, spacing, indent and tab is set by hand. Character and paragraph styling is possibly the single-most useful feature of a word processor, yet Word makes this function so inaccessible that it becomes an obscure feature to the vast majority of users.

Because it makes perfect sense for Apple to let Microsoft dictate their development?

File formats are really just containers. In theory Apple could use the .docx file format, but that doesn't mean Pages would support all of the features of Word. In fact they could support less of them. For instance, Pages handles the importing of .doc files with tracking changes. They could just as easily use the .docx format and not support tracking changes within the app.

Send the client a PDF. Which usually makes more sense anyway.

Which is what we do with all of our finished reports, unless the client insists (for good reasons) on having an editable document. Then I send them a Word export. In that event they might get the idea that the document wasn't created in Word because we've used fonts that they won't have on their PCs. And this issue would be the same whether the document originated from Word or any other word processor.
 
That would get me to upgrade to iOS7 (assuming they only work with 7)...

I did buy the versions for my MacBook Pro, but haven't bought them for my iPhone. Since they would be rarely used just to view files when away from my house.

I was disappointed that iPhoto wasn't included for free with the iPad last winter when I bought one for my Mom. All of the stores had iPhoto preloaded, and I figured that it would have come with it.
 
I know there are a lot of people who are concerned that making iWork free would cause Apple to not focus on future development. That concern makes sense, but the reverse may be true. This may be an initiative on Apple's part to update iWork on an annual basis with each new version of OSX and IOS. This would make new releases of Apple's OS more exciting and also make it more compelling to update your hardware when your iPhone/iPad/Mac can no longer update to the latest version. Apple may be in the business of selling hardware, but they have been in in the business of developing software that entices people to buy their hardware, iLife being the best example of that.
 
Anyone get this too?

Has anyone been lucky enough to catch this glitch as well? I did, and also took a screenshot (just in case it backfired). True enough, 2 days later I see receipts come into my email with charges for the iWork apps (I had already purchased iPhoto and iMovie before). I've since disputed the charges, but the Apple representative has been far from helpful, basically calling me a liar (saying "I've checked the app store and the apps you mentioned aren't showing as free).
 

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Do you really think creating a 300-page dissertation with over 1,000 footnotes and several cross-references between them is a significant percentage of what people use word for? I think "obscure" is reasonable. Most people don't even use styles in my experience.

Well, they are features. I understand that most people don't use half the features of modern word processors. But then, do they really need a powerful word processor?

I know people that started using styles and cross-references once they knew Word had this feature. The redesign of Office 2007 helped a lot of people to discover such features, and start using them. Lots of people use Word for creating simple letters or 5-page documents and, in these cases, it is unnecessary to use those features.

I understand that Apple designed Pages as a dumbed-down word processor, for those people who barely know how to type a text to be dazzled with beautiful and easy-to-create documents. That's Apple's approach. Apple could also have inserted advanced features on it, and it could have made them easy to use. But it chose not to. Apple preferred to not spend money in development of Pages. It's easier to develop a simple word processor which lacks features, and call those features "bloat". It's easy for someone who doesn't even know what the features are for to call them "bloat". But then ask someone who regularly use those features if they are "bloat". Of course not. The difficult part - to create a full-featured, yet easy to use, word processor - well, that part Apple skipped.

But then I'm frustrated. I've bought a computer that costed me more than double a standard Windows computer. Only to discover that the software it runs is dumbed-down and that, if I want to have all the features, I'll have to run Windows. I know it's Apple's approach, and I know most people don't even give a damn about it. But I'm disappointed at Apple.

Because it makes perfect sense for Apple to let Microsoft dictate their development?

Compatibility has nothing to do with development. Apple could have invested some money in it, because Office files are very popular, and it would have been useful for Mac users to open Office files seamlessly.

Now, what development are you talking about? Pages hasn't been updated in four years.

Send the client a PDF. Which usually makes more sense anyway.

It's not always possible. When you work in a corporate environment, and you have to share documents with other people in your firm, and with professionals from other firms, it's really hard to not be fully compatible with Microsoft Office. And the clients usually want fully compatible Microsoft Office files.

Apple Pages is a $20 piece of software aimed at teenage students willing to do their homework. It's not serious stuff. It's not meant to produce real work, to be fully compatible with anything, or to have features that save time. It's just for fun. That's my impression on it.
 
Yea, that would be great! I don't even mind if I have to pay as long as they put out something new and competitive.

For example, Numbers is so outdated that is impossible to work with. Microsoft Office has the upper hand because of the formulas and equations are updated and there is no limitation on what you can use them for. I use MS for Engineering stuff and it can pull out some crazy stuff, but the same can't be achievable by Numbers no matter what you do.

I also wish they release a new version of Aperture, since Lightroom is taking it over.

Honestly, I have not idea what is going on with Apple software, their own products are so outdated, the full iWork suit came out in 2009 right? So that is a 6-7 yr old software, and Aperture came in 2010, that is 3-4 years!

Come on!
I think you better check your math. 2009 to today is not 6-7 years. But I get your point.
 
And we were correct!

But only for new iOS product purchases :mad:

Still, that is a good way to drive new purchases of Apple products which were going to probably be bought anyway.

I have my fingers crossed that Apple does the same for the desktop versions of iLife and iWork with Mavericks apart from it won't be just new Apple machines it will be everyone that pays to download Mavericks which is much the better way to do it.
 
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